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Old 01-08-2018, 10:39 AM   #151
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Re: Exploitation of 3rd World Workers or whatever

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Yes and no. People here are way way way smarter. Even the worst posters. But that creates a false view of the world.

Arguing with morons on fb has helped me understand the world as it is (trump, brexit, refugees in australia) much better.
so much this, especially the bold
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:00 AM   #152
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Re: Exploitation of 3rd World Workers or whatever

i tried going down the rabbit hole one time on FB with a poker acquaintance from alabama of all places (this was in the run-up to the 2016 election), and i was just shocked at how completely unable to articulate any sort of coherent point he was. every response he gave was just some stupid, irrelevant, half or wholly untrue meme in picture form. literally no words at all.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:23 AM   #153
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Re: Exploitation of 3rd World Workers or whatever

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So that brings up the question of "Is it wrong to "exploit" someone who is actually soliciting that exploitation when he offers to do something for a ridiculously small amount, but you are not interested in having it done unless it was indeed that cheap."
It's not about what we are willing to pay. It's about the options available to the person who may or may not be being exploited. The better the options they have then the less they are being exploited by chosing any one of them.

Tackling exploitation is multi-pronged but it necessarily requires people having better economic options.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:31 AM   #154
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I like bringing it back to something that can be written as policy. Yeah, I would not set an international wage or something, but if I had the power to set US policy I would use some carrots and sticks to require those kinds of labor standards in items we allow for import.* Or to be more of an Anarchist, I would boycott companies that have bad labor practices.

*In practical terms this might be something like certifying that the country has reasonable labor protection laws and enforcement rather than trying to certify individual companies or products, perhaps combined with a black list of known offenders.
I would like to see as requiring companies to have a clear legally binding policy regarding their out of country supply chain as part of any product they sell. That enable the social pressure on those who have the worst policies alongside prosecuting those who are negligent. I've suggested this before as part of a default contract system whereby companies can default to some government set standard if they dont have an explicit policy.

Countries that reach certain standards can be considered as not being out of country.
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