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I just saw this too but haven't yet found any new sights carrying this story. Still looking...

Only sites carrying this story (verbatim) are:
abovetopsecret.com (my favorite)
whatdoesitmean.com
beforeitsnews.com

and some blogs or forum discussions of the above. Sounds like quackery!

Last edited by kurto; 06-28-2010 at 04:09 PM. Reason: updated

07-06-2010 , 11:00 AM

#1003

ErikTheDread

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Things get so bad that coastal areas become all but unliveable. Possible worst-case scenario if the petroleum keeps spewing for a long, long time?

07-06-2010 , 03:41 PM

#1004

adios

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Originally Posted by ErikTheDread

Things get so bad that coastal areas become all but unliveable. Possible worst-case scenario if the petroleum keeps spewing for a long, long time?

Nuke the BP well? Idea has backers, but more critics

And it's not just Soviet boffins. Milo Nordyke, one of the masterminds behind U.S. research into peaceful nuclear energy in the 1960s and '70s says a nuclear explosion is a logical last-resort solution for BP and the government. Matthew Simmons, a former energy adviser to U.S. President George W. Bush and the founder of energy investment-banking firm Simmons & Company

International, is another calling for the nuclear option.
Even former U.S. President Bill Clinton has voiced support for the idea of an explosion to stem the flow of oil, albeit one using conventional materials rather than nukes. "Unless we send the Navy down deep to blow up the well and cover the leak with piles and piles and piles of rock and debris, which may become necessary ... unless we are going to do that, we are dependent on the technical expertise of these people from BP," Clinton told the Fortune/Time/CNN Global Forum in South Africa on June 29.

Clinton was picking up on an idea mooted by Christopher Brownfield in June. Brownfield is a one-time nuclear submarine officer, a veteran of the Iraq war (he volunteered in 2006) and now a nuclear policy researcher at Columbia University. He is also one of a number of scientists whose theories rely not on nuclear bombs — he did toy with that thought for a while — but on conventional explosives that would implode the well and, if not completely plug it with crushed rock, at least bring the flow of oil under control. "It's kind of like stepping on a garden hose to kink it," Brownfield says. "You may not cut off the flow entirely but it would greatly reduce the flow."

......

The Soviets first used a nuclear blast to seal a gas leak in 1966. Urtabulak, one of its prized gas-fields in Uzbekistan, had caught fire and raged for three years. Desperate to save the cherished reserves, Yefim Slavsky, then Minister of Light Industry, ordered nuclear engineers to use the most powerful weapon in their arsenal.

"The minister said, 'Do it. Put it out. Explode it,'" recalls Albert Vasilyev, a young engineer and a rising star in the project who now teaches at the Lenin Technical Institute in Moscow.

Vasilyev remembers the technology behind the program with obvious pride. "The explosion takes place deep underground," he says. "We pinch the pipe, break it and the pipe collapses." According to Vasilyev, the blast at Urtabulak sealed the well shut leaving only an empty crater.

In all, the Soviets detonated five nuclear devices to seal off runaway gas wells — succeeding three or four times, depending on who you talk to. "It worked quite well for them," says Nordyke, who authored a detailed account of Soviet explosions in a 2000 paper. "There is no reason to think it wouldn't be fine (for the United States)."

07-06-2010 , 03:55 PM

#1005

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Originally Posted by adios

Bill Clinton, well known expert on matters relating to blowouts...

No wait, wasn't that blowjobs?

07-06-2010 , 05:25 PM

#1006

Brian J

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his tastes in flavored cigars is definitely a bit different than mine

07-06-2010 , 05:35 PM

#1007

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Originally Posted by CRUDEFINDER

Not really. If a bunch of people were crapping in my yard and I could pay a little money to get them to go down the street and crap in my neighbors yard, I would do it.

I'd still be against crapping in yards, but it would be a quick fix to my problem.

Personally I'd ask them to stop and if they didn't heed my kind warning I'd shoot them dead. Then again I live in Texas.

07-06-2010 , 06:23 PM

#1008

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I posted this in the low-content thread, but thought it deserved note here too:

Actual BP board game from the 1970s, discussing risks of drilling and other stuff

07-06-2010 , 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by checkm8

Personally I'd ask them to stop and if they didn't heed my kind warning I'd shoot them dead. Then again I live in Texas.

Where shooting people is cool...

07-06-2010 , 11:39 PM

#1010

Shoe

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Where shooting people is cool...

Where crappy behavior is not tolerated?

07-07-2010 , 12:12 AM

#1011

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Where crappy behavior is not tolerated?

Some people believe killing people who are of no physical threat to be crappy behavior.

07-07-2010 , 01:28 AM

#1012

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Where crappy behavior is not tolerated?

Who determines what is "crappy behavior?".... He with the biggest gun?

07-07-2010 , 01:45 PM

#1013

Shoe

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Who determines what is "crappy behavior?".... He with the biggest gun?

This is turning into a crappy discussion.

07-07-2010 , 01:58 PM

#1014

CRUDEFINDER

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Originally Posted by checkm8

Personally I'd ask them to stop and if they didn't heed my kind warning I'd shoot them dead. Then again I live in Texas.

I live in Texico too and I would certainly never shoot anyone for crapping in my yard. Times are tough and fertilizer is expensive...

07-10-2010 , 01:54 AM

#1015

EricLindros

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This Corexit dispersant that they're pumping the Gulf of Mexico full of seems like it's probably some great, spill-fixing chemical.

07-14-2010 , 06:39 PM

#1016

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what the ****ity ****?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100714/...20100616040848

Quote:

NEW ORLEANS – BP's work on capping the Gulf of Mexico gusher was frozen Wednesday after the federal government raised concerns the operation could put damaging pressure on the busted well that could make the leak worse.

An administration official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the talks with BP, said the government was acting out of "abundance of caution" and didn't want potentially dangerous pressure tests on a tighter containment cap that has been placed over the well to go ahead until BP answers questions about possible risks.

At the same time, BP on its own halted the drilling of two relief wells that are designed to be a more permanent solution to plug the well.

shouldn't someone have thought of this before the other cap was removed?

07-14-2010 , 07:48 PM

#1017

rjoefish

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The government probably just wanted to make sure their ducks are in a row with their track record on pressure tests.

07-14-2010 , 08:45 PM

#1018

CRUDEFINDER

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Thanks Government. All oil spilled from this day forward now belongs to the Obama administration.

Either assume full responsibility of the sonofabitch or get the hell out of the way and let these people do what they do.

07-14-2010 , 11:05 PM

#1019

11t

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i personally think obama knew this was going to be a cluster **** no matter what and decided to divert as much blame as possible

07-15-2010 , 02:56 AM

#1020

Effen

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Originally Posted by CRUDEFINDER

That's quite a leap of logic.

07-15-2010 , 12:35 PM

#1021

Brian J

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saw this in another post on 2+2:

Did you hear about the new fix?

They replaced the previous cap with a wedding ring.

It stopped putting out immediately.

07-15-2010 , 01:41 PM

#1022

Effen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian J

saw this in another post on 2+2:

Did you hear about the new fix?

They replaced the previous cap with a wedding ring.

It stopped putting out immediately.

B+

significantly better than Obama diss du jour

see i knew you had it in you