Harness the geothermal energy safely and you will make billions.

Just be sure to get clearance from the Federally funded "Save the Red Spotted Cave Trout" foundation that will surely mount an aggressive campaign against your evil, antagonistic, monopolistic and obviously morally deviant (profitable) company.

Failure to do so will force you to take your operation off-planet. Might cost a tad more, but the long-term tax incentives for mining energy on Mars could possibly pay off in the future..... But don't disturb or disrupt in any way, shape or form the surface, structure or habitat of Mars.

Good luck.

lol, this thread went down hill fast

you mean the George Noory-like punt to "Mars?"

They drill in deep water cause thats where the oil is. If they could slant/directional drill from shore they would. You ever take a drive around areas of Los Angeles? There are nodding horse pumps everywhere.

FYP

Your 1st FYP contradicts your 2nd FYP. The base point is the same, they chase black gold for the $$$$, and only the $$$$$$$$

This disaster was caused by environmentalists-gone-wild...
No sane person would be drilling in 5,000 feet of water...
Unless that was the ONLY option left available.

US consumes 20 million barrels oil/day...
The entire output in Gulf Mexico is 1.5 million/day...
Deep water drilling is crazy.

Expanding drilling in Alaska Wildlife Refuge...
Which means allocating 8% for exploration...
Would produce 2 million/day >> entire Gulf output.

The entire Drilling Platform footprint in ANWR...
Would be roughly 2,000 acres... the size of LAX.

So in order to protect a few thousand acres of Alaska...
Environmentalists-gone-wild have now brought about...
The destruction of the Mississippi River Delta.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_...ng_controversy

The Obama Administration is too clever by half...
They thought Gulf Disaster = Opportunity...
So let's party hard at night and play golf all day...
This will allow us to shut down the oil industry...
And pass toxic legislation like Cap and Trade.

Sorry, comrades...
But when gas hits $5.00/gallon this summer...
And air conditioning shuts down in California...
And you have rolling blackouts across the USA...
And hurricanes spread the oil inland everywhere...
And the Gulf Spill in still flowing in November...
The Dems will lose control of BOTH the House and Senate...
And Special Prosecutors will begin work Jan 2011.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_...ng_controversy

Almost a month ago I made the point that the environmentalists were the driving factor in setting up this disaster by pushing us into deep water drilling, instead of drilling at more accessible and controllable locations.

Well, Carol Browner, Obama's energy czar, admitted on Meet The Press today that deep water drilling was a big mistake, and that it obviously would have been much easier to control well heads in shallower water.

Oh, Carol, you and your ilk were a big part of what created this problem, and that Obama has not fired her for her environmental stupidity says a lot about Obama. Obama = governmental failure LDO


My post from May 2nd:

And what can you say about the posters here who poo pooed my earlier post. It says to me that many posters in this thread do not have a firm grasp of reality about environmental issues. Instead of using critical thinking, too many blindly follow the propaganda of the environmentalist kooks.

How sad.

Redman. Someone needs to liberate your return key and the full stop.

Environmentalists have nothing to do with drilling in the deep ocean. If that was allowed in Alaska all that would happen would be they would be drilling in Alaska right now whilst the well spews oil into the Gulf. There is no either/or, they would be doing both.

Some of you guys have this weird idea that the situation went:

BP: Yo, let us drill in Alaska.
Gov: Let us ask some ppl
Hippies: Nah man, that aint happening
Gov: Srry BP, no can do
BP: Well screw you then, im gonna go drilling 5k feet of ocean instead because i only own one drill and it was either here or there.

it's non-optimal to be completely accident free

+1, environmentalists didn't cause this - this is just lol partisan politics. Apparently all of the anti-environmentalists in this board believe:

1) BP has limited resources such that it would be impossible to simultaneously drill in Alaska and other ultra deep water reservoirs.

2) BP would not seek additional profits by drilling both the Alaskan area and ultra deep water reservoirs because it would not be profitable.

3) Land based reservoirs are apparently an infinite source of oil, so if only we had been allowed to drill on land this could have been completely averted.

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1) There is no evidence that BP or similar companies would not engage in simultaneous drilling.
2) Ultra deep drilling is (was?) profitable.
3) Despite your political/worldview, there is in fact a finite amount of oil in all reservoirs including land based ones. The fact of the matter is we would end up in ultra deep wells with or without the pressures of environmentalists.

I can't understand how you could be so out of touch with reality...

I said several weeks ago that BP would not have this shutdown by the end of June, and that BP will not pay for the entire cost of the cleanup. I stick by that. Obama visits La. coast but doesn't come here to Houston (where BP execs have all holed up in offices downtown) to meet with them. The entire operation at this point is being run from here, not in south La. BP execs are keeping their distance from the environment impacted zone. But of course, all the logistics and industrial backing are handled here in Houston. So why didn't Obama make a stop here and meet them face to face?

I also stick by my statements that BP is putting on shows for PR purposes, and I think the Obama admin. has jumped on that bandwagon. Why wouldn't anyone be on the phone to Shell Oil, or Exxon/Mobil, or any of the other big oil outfits that have just as much or more experience in the Gulf than BP? Why should we be relying on BP alone to stop this? Maybe it's time to take advice and suggestions from third party big oil on what needs to be done. Maybe Obama needs to force BP to swallow their pride and seek outside consultation and help.

Again, why the **** should Obama be doing anything? What good is him making speeches and taking pictures? He doesn't know how to stop this **** and berating BP isnt going to make it stop any faster. Not to mention BP is probably one of the top 5 employers in the region so taking to to them isnt exactly the best thing for the economic prospects of the area.

Comparing it to Katrina, where there was a clear government role, is laughable. And him getting hit from the right with "his interior dept wasnt hard enough on big oil!" is pretty much the most lollerskates thing ever.

BP came in here and bought their way into the Gulf region via the Chevron buyout a dozen or so years ago. The first thing they did was drop all the vendors that Chevron had used for years. They proudly proclaimed that they had a better way of doing everything. Since that time many lives have been lost doing it the "better way", and it has been one major accident after another. I'll continue to berate BP, as their track record her on the Gulf coast in the last several years really sucks.

As for why should Obama do anything, well he is in charge of every agency and enforcement office that is supposed to be overseeing the likes of BP. He better damn well be doing something. Like he said when he made his little appearance down in La. the other day, "He is in charge, and all decisions go through him". He should have had his self over here in Houston meeting with those whose decisions led to all this, and getting a first hand handle on what needs to be done. Standing on a beach with the Coast Guard saying "damn, this is bad" isn't helping.

Not an answer.

No, not the answer you wanted.

Are you aware how many leak seal outfits and subsea outfits there are here in Houston? BP is trying to handle this whole thing within'. When you are afraid it will be discovered that you engineered a bad well, you got to keep that info under the rug. BP is stalling to drill the relief wells so that the truth doesn't come out. The well was **** from the start. You are aware that another rig pulled off that hole due to problems right? Bad engineering from the word go.

And this is Obama's fault how?

He can solve the problem how?

Okay, obviously you have a reading comprehension issue. Like I said above. He or his people shouldn't be taking everything BP says as gospel. They have phones, get on the phone and setup meetings with other big oil outfits, leak seal , and subsea outfits to find out what needs to be done. Obama is supposed to be a leader. He needs to lead. Now a question for you. Is that too much to ask of him? Even the most remote dumbass can find success, if they surround themselves with smart people, and aren't afraid to ask questions. Maybe it'll interrupt his vacation, or a golf round. Yeah, on second thought, it's too much to expect out of someone like Obama. Nevermind.

His administration has almost certainly done those things.

And you know this how? Show me a source that says that anyone from that admin. has consulted anyone outside of the govt. or BP. Give me a source.

very true, but even 1 21" diameter hole under geothermic pressure spewing carcinogens into a near river estuary that feeds many people is not optimal either.

The weird thing about life is its not a logic puzzle or game theory problem. The real consequences of some actions are the willful death of species of life. If you are able to sleep well with those actions in play today, maybe tomorrow a similar endeavor is initiated in your backyard. Then the people not affected will be able to make the same claims about you.

I got to go. Cooking hamburgers and hotdogs. Wish you were all here. It's an ancient American thing that some of us vets still do. Tomorrow we honor those that gave their lives so we could do what we like today. We do these things in spite of the political incorrectness, and the fact that times have changed. Call us patriot bastards. We are too stupid to know better. But, we like it, and still enjoy what freedoms we have left.

What are you expecting Obama to do in the BP offices in Houston. Burst in through the door as a secretary says to the BP exec "im sorry sir, he wouldnt wait" then Obama booms "yo BP execs, why arent you fixing stuff?" and they will say "well we were, are, err, hmm" and he will shout "start fixing things!" and suddenly they will realise he is serious and so they will start calling in some experts they havent gotten around to speaking to yet who will tell them of this super secret technique for capping oil wells.

Also lol at any company but BP going near that oil well. Firstly i doubt they have some super secret ideas that BP already doesnt have (they would have said at some point) and they know if they come in to fix things and it goes wrong, maybe somehow even get worse, then they look just as bad as BP does now.

Like right now there is a team of Exxon execs with a team of expert engineers with the blueprints for a way to stop the disaster but they are anxiously waiting by the phone for Obama to ask them. "why hasnt he called yet, its been aaaaaagggggeeeesss"

"put me in coach, ILL HIT THE HOMERUN WE NEED!"

Where the **** did this come from?