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December LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of December?

Matthew Whitaker

10 21.74%

John Kelly

6 13.04%

Kjrstyn Njielessen

8 17.39%

James Mattis

1 2.17%

Ryan Zinke

0 0%

Donald Trump Jr

8 17.39%

Roger Stone

4 8.70%

Ivanka Trump

1 2.17%

Rod Rosenstein

6 13.04%

Write-in

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12-05-2018 , 02:34 PM

#176

TrollyWantACracker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

I'm sure a bunch of Democrats will start up a GoFundMe for it since it was the home of righteous NeverTrumpers.

Seems a little mean spirited to make them grovel online. Why not just subscribe? Also makes a good xmas gift.

12-05-2018 , 06:35 PM

#177

smacc25

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Last edited by smacc25; 12-05-2018 at 06:42 PM.

12-05-2018 , 06:40 PM

#178

otatop

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A SpaceX first stage rocket had a grid fin failure earlier today but still "landed" intact in the water. Pretty crazy watching it roll all the way down.

12-05-2018 , 08:45 PM

#179

Trolly McTrollson

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12-05-2018 , 11:38 PM

#180

David Sklansky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

I did not. But it's just football which is there for an enjoyable type of pain and pleasure.

How anyone on the liberal/left can defend the travesty of the plea bargaining based 'justice' system like they have in the USA beggars belief. It causes real harm and suffering on an epic scale with a huge dollop of racism/etc. Unlike most people. It's indefensible.

He gave a logical reason that I don't remember. Perhaps it was something like this:

Assume 90% of those arrested are guilty. But also assume that the punishment one receives if convicted at trial is far in excess of what is just for that specific crime. If the plea bargain results in a much lower sentence, then, on average, the technique is moral.

12-06-2018 , 01:09 AM

#181

simplicitus

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https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/st...43855924244481

12-06-2018 , 01:19 AM

#182

wheatrich

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12-06-2018 , 02:56 AM

#183

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Yes there's a 'defense' that the system is so thoroughly rotten that without the abuse of plea bargaining it would be even worse. Let's assume that's true but:

a) it means more than plea bargaining needs to change (which is obvious anyway)

and

b) Plea bargaining is itself supporting a system with far more criminalisation than is just. A far better start for your test than 90% are guilty, would be that 90% of those who plead would have been found guilty of the crime in a viable system without plea bargaining.

12-06-2018 , 02:59 AM

#184

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Seriously, we somehow have to prevent boomers from using the internet.

12-06-2018 , 05:24 AM

#185

simplicitus

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Interesting article.

Some Words Defy Translation. Angela Merkel Showed Why.

If you can't read on NYT site, may be able to click through tweet.

https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status...13858282205184

12-06-2018 , 08:43 AM

#186

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

What if plea bargaining is the thing inducing overcriminalization and overpunishment?

12-06-2018 , 09:48 AM

#187

simplicitus

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https://twitter.com/starlightgeek/st...476945923?s=19

12-06-2018 , 11:59 AM

#188

smacc25

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Destiny having some fun....

12-06-2018 , 12:51 PM

#189

Slighted

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simplicitus

https://twitter.com/starlightgeek/st...476945923?s=19

liked that thread.

really liked the quote that was buried in there.

Europe is a place where 100 miles is a long distance
America is a place where 100 years is a long time.

12-06-2018 , 01:40 PM

#190

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Slighted

liked that thread.

really liked the quote that was buried in there.

Europe is a place where 100 miles is a long distance
America is a place where 100 years is a long time.

I'm am definitely like: 100 miles is not a long distance and 100 years is definitely a long time.

12-06-2018 , 02:05 PM

#191

smacc25

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Q..Who invented the Fire hydrant ?

Spoiler:

12-06-2018 , 03:04 PM

#192

Huehuecoyotl

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I'd like to thank the US healthcare industry for giving me a 5K bill for my child's care during his birth, on his one year anniversary. Jesus what a system.

12-06-2018 , 03:17 PM

#193

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smacc25

Q..Who invented the Fire hydrant ?

Spoiler:

Yeah, there are about 10,000 parents that were lost in a fire. These are called the X-patents by the patent office. The inventors’ copies of these are the only records of them.

12-06-2018 , 03:55 PM

#194

TrollyWantACracker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Yeah, there are about 10,000 parents that were lost in a fire. These are called the X-patents by the patent office. The inventors’ copies of these are the only records of them.

Someone should invent a machine that will allow them to reproduce those records.

12-06-2018 , 04:24 PM

#195

Namath12

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Ruining your kid's college prospects to pwn the libs

12-06-2018 , 06:41 PM

#196

All-In Flynn

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RIP Pete Shelley. Only wrote one really good song, but man what a tune:

Spoiler:

12-06-2018 , 07:19 PM

#197

jalfrezi

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Oh no that's sad.

I don't need to click the YouTube link to know which song it is but maybe it gets too much attention.

Real World, What Do I Get? And Promises were all great too and Another Music In A Different Kitchen and Love Bites were very good albums.

12-06-2018 , 07:28 PM

#198

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

I don't need to click the YouTube link to know which song it is

12-06-2018 , 07:28 PM

#199

David Sklansky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

What if plea bargaining is the thing inducing overcriminalization and overpunishment?

Plea bargaining is theoretically ridiculous because your punishment should not be significantly based on whether you are willing to make things easier for prosecutors. I was just playing fly's advocate. If I remembered his argument correctly he was willing to accept that unfairness for the sake of his poor clients.

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