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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Oh sure - as long as they know they aren't getting shot back at ever, they're all in. I said as much.
Not even so sure about this. Sure -- lots of them are totally pussies and won't do it. And what I'm about to say is only very subtly different than what you are saying, but I think it's important.
But I'm going to suggest, again, that we are perhaps collectively losing sight of the right's almost explicit, gleeful political project going on here. They are almost completely transparent about this.
They think...:
1. a consortium of their political and tribal enemies -- blacks, Muslims, feminists, the left, liberals, Jews, etc. -- are actively working in concert to disempower them
2. a small subset of elites among their enemies have bought mass-buy-in for leftist political projects via the welfare state ("Democratic plantation! Once the welfare checks stop, be ready! They are recruiting an invading force of Mexicans!")
3. this system will inevitably come crashing due whatever random bull**** economic theories they picked up on YouTube, Reddit, Ron Paul newsletters or way worse
4. related, they in fact want the welfare state to come crashing down and are trying to make that happen
5. Donald Trump and other deplorable politicians and Republicans, now largely converging into one single unit, are their last and best hope to preserve their idealized white supremacist state
Remember the guns, the ammo, the act of very publically and proudly arming themselves and the hysterical fretting they do about their guns is effectively a semi bluff for whether #5 works or not. The guns work in either direction, either to intimidate and harass and shoot their opponents when Trump/Paul Ryan style politics start to really punitively harm the populations they're intended to harm and there's a backlash, or it fails and they're forced to resort to violence to preserve their desired social order.
It's trite, of course, but we should absolutely start seeing this kind of **** as pre-cursor for people ensconced in a fascist political movement, a veritable apocalyptic death cult planning for an end game. Put bluntly, they're not planning to return to a Trump status quo ante and their rhetoric and their actions are pretty transparently headed to a crisis point that they are almost desperate to bring about (e.g., preserve white supremacy and the accompanying backlash they know would come with it, or die trying). Again, this is not a prediction. It may be that the movement atrophies, it's certainly true these sentiments sort of always exist, it may be that things get better, not worse. Maybe we're right on the cusp of an economic boom and everyone will satisfy themselves with a little extra money for a time. Maybe external events like a foreign adversary will emerge and re-direct the blood lust. Maybe the global liberal order can forestall **** with edge tinkering until all these people die off.
Again, these are not predictions but simply that we should start taking these people and their rhetoric ("it's all going to ****, Donald Trump is the last and only hope for white vitality!") and their actions (buying lots of ****ing guns and waving them around at everyone) more seriously, and stop assuming they won't do it, that they're just scared to be fired back on. Maybe it's true now, or they've not so sure the ROI is there, but give it a few years to let the current political crisis play out. But give them credit for putting their plans together. They can't be clearer about the political project to dismantle the welfare state and preserve white supremacy and that together, that will produce a violent backlash and they're arming themselves for it. That's not like healthy behavior and I think we should stop assuming it's all LARPing cosplay and dick anxiety.
Last edited by DVaut1; 12-05-2018 at 01:10 PM.