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December LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition** December LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**
View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of December?
Matthew Whitaker
10 21.74%
John Kelly
6 13.04%
Kjrstyn Njielessen
8 17.39%
James Mattis
1 2.17%
Ryan Zinke
0 0%
Donald Trump Jr
8 17.39%
Roger Stone
4 8.70%
Ivanka Trump
1 2.17%
Rod Rosenstein
6 13.04%
Write-in
2 4.35%

12-18-2018 , 10:21 AM
I was not aware that one could copyright sick m0vez

Maybe twerkers will get sued into extinction
12-18-2018 , 11:38 AM
Run bad, get there

12-18-2018 , 12:23 PM
Lose election? No problem! Get gifted senatorship.
12-18-2018 , 12:40 PM
On the plus side, she has to defend the seat in 2020, and again in 2022.

On the plus + side, she's already an experienced loser so it's absolutely in play.
12-18-2018 , 01:42 PM
On the minus side, if she's sworn in first, she'll become the first female Senator from AZ, as well as have seniority over Sinema.
12-18-2018 , 01:46 PM
Lamar Alexander retire *****
12-18-2018 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDuker
On the minus side, if she's sworn in first, she'll become the first female Senator from AZ, as well as have seniority over Sinema.
Does seniority over a member of a different party really matter in anything of importance?
12-18-2018 , 02:35 PM
There was some last minute gossip about Ducey appointing a Maricopa County prosecutor. The guy deleted his twitter account apparently to hide anti-Trump tweets. Head fake!

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...enate-11073026
12-18-2018 , 02:48 PM
So everyone's heard of the "Baby It's Cold" contraversy. Well Damon Linker weighed in and I'm not going to read the whole thing because the first couple of lines were enough to make me stop.

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Can a four-minute holiday ballad be a source of moral harm in the world?

Plato, who suggested that the best political system should either expel artists or strictly censor their work, would certainly have thought so.
LOL. Jesus these people. They can't go two sentences in any article without quoting Plato or Cicero or someone from antiquity.

https://theweek.com/articles/813101/...reat-awokening
12-18-2018 , 04:13 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/..._open_arizona/

The donald is not happy about the appointment. She is a RINO, a swamp creature, she lost the election because the republicans didn't fight hard enough during the counting process, and apparently the democrats have a majority in the senate when you add up the 47 dems + the RINOs
12-18-2018 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Does seniority over a member of a different party really matter in anything of importance?
Probably not, maybe a bigger office. It's just galling.

Edit: Ducey: Sinema will be Arizona's senior senator, but I'm not sure why it would be his decision.
12-18-2018 , 05:09 PM
LOCK HIM UP (seriously)
12-18-2018 , 05:11 PM
Donald Trump:

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"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side," Trump said of Epstein in 2002.
12-18-2018 , 05:18 PM
If there were cel phones and digital cameras back then Dersh would be so ****ed.
12-18-2018 , 06:31 PM
Will someone forward this to Hannibal Buress please?
12-18-2018 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Run bad, get there

This is actually pretty good news, she already lost in a midterm year, she’s pretty beatable in a presidential year.
12-19-2018 , 02:15 AM
Ugh. https://www.stevelocke.com/blog/i-fit-the-description
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"We have the victim and we need her to take a look at you to see if you are the person."

It was at this moment that I knew that I was probably going to die. I am not being dramatic when I say this. I was not going to get into a police car. I was not going to present myself to some victim. I was not going let someone tell the cops that I was not guilty when I already told them that I had nothing to do with any robbery. I was not going to let them take me anywhere because if they did, the chance I was going to be accused of something I did not do rose exponentially. I knew this in my heart. I was not going anywhere with these cops and I was not going to let some white woman decide whether or not I was a criminal, especially after I told them that I was not a criminal. This meant that I was going to resist arrest. This meant that I was not going to let the police put their hands on me.

If you are wondering why people don't go with the police, I hope this explains it for you.

Something weird happens when you are on the street being detained by the police. People look at you like you are a criminal. The police are detaining you so clearly you must have done something, otherwise they wouldn't have you. No one made eye contact with me. I was hoping that someone I knew would walk down the street or come out of one of the shops or get off the 39 bus or come out of JP Licks and say to these cops, "That's Steve Locke. What the **** are you detaining him for?"
12-19-2018 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Gotta say that I don't see the problem here? He was stopped because he fit a description (which wasn't just "black male", his coat and hat match the description). The cops aren't trying to stitch him up, one of them even tells him, unprompted, that it doesn't seem like his weight matches the description. They question him a little and let him go. That white woman should have kept her mouth shut, but whatever. The entire rest of the melodramatic tone of the post is happening in his head. None of it has any basis in reality. I also don't believe him for a second that he was going to resist arrest. And like:

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I thought about the fact my word counted for nothing, they didn't believe that I wasn't a criminal. They had to find out. My word was not enough for them. My ID was not enough for them. My handmade one-of-a-kind knit hat was an object of suspicion.
But his ID is enough for them! The grunt police are just waiting for the detective to show up and once he does, he immediately lets this guy go. They say they're going to get the victim to have a look at him, but they never do.

What is it that he wants changed about this interaction? Should the police not stop people who match descriptions? Should they immediately let someone go if they say "I'm not a criminal"? If you own a knit hat that was handmade for you, does that mean it's not OK for "knit hat" to be part of a description? I don't get it. Not every police interaction with a black person is sinister.
12-19-2018 , 02:57 AM
It's not impossible that the police were telling the truth about the description including those details about the knit hat and puffy coat, but it's very far from a lock.
12-19-2018 , 03:05 AM
The point is he has a legitimate reason to fear for his life in that situation and therefore feared for his life. That it turned out okay is way beside the point.

Also, the only part of the description that matched him was a black man wearing a hat in the winter. He had a blazer on, not a puffy jacket, outweighed the description and his hat was colorful. He was reminded that he is responsible for proving he is not a threat if any white person sees a “suspicious” black person, yet here you are complaining that all cops are not “bad”. Ffs, man.
12-19-2018 , 03:11 AM
For reference, my black friends teach their kids to treat interactions with the police as if they are dealing with an armed robber. Don’t argue with them, don’t move too quick, don’t make them mad or scared, keep your hands up etc.

This fear is real and it’s justified. That fact alone is oppressive whether it materializes or not.
12-19-2018 , 03:12 AM
If they were making up the description, why would the officer both make up an incorrect weight and admit to the suspect that the weight seems incorrect? I'm always willing to believe that cops are lying, but I want some kind of motive. The interaction as described was just a pure waste of time for these police, like if you think they're just stopping a random black guy, why? What's the point? It's not like a stop and frisk where they can maybe find drugs or a gun or something and get their arrest quota up.

The article reads kind of pathetic to me, honestly, because this guy is a college professor who was never in the slightest amount of danger at any point in this interaction, but it has this tone like he was lucky to survive his encounter with the jackbooted agents of systemic racism. Give me a break.
12-19-2018 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
The point is he has a legitimate reason to fear for his life in that situation
Oh, bull****. He's a middle-class guy being asked to stop in broad daylight in the middle of an affluent area of Boston. Racial bias in policing is real, but it's not sorcery that has the power to turn any routine police interaction into a deathtrap.

What I see in this post is a guy being treated actually pretty deferentially by the police (the cop says "This is probably nothing", shares with him details of the description which appear to exonerate him, and the detective lets him go immediately upon arriving, without bothering to show him to the victim). But because America has a total absence of class consciousness, inside this guy's mind it's the same as if he were being held at gunpoint at 1am in an alley in the South Side of Chicago. It's kind of amazing.
12-19-2018 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
If they were making up the description, why would the officer both make up an incorrect weight and admit to the suspect that the weight seems incorrect? I'm always willing to believe that cops are lying, but I want some kind of motive. The interaction as described was just a pure waste of time for these police, like if you think they're just stopping a random black guy, why? What's the point? It's not like a stop and frisk where they can maybe find drugs or a gun or something and get their arrest quota up.

The article reads kind of pathetic to me, honestly, because this guy is a college professor who was never in the slightest amount of danger at any point in this interaction, but it has this tone like he was lucky to survive his encounter with the jackbooted agents of systemic racism. Give me a break.
It wasn't for no reason. There was a call. They didn't want to just say "black male" because duh. They made up additional details because that's how people lie most of the time rather than 100% inventions. Huge possibility puffy coat and knit hat were lies.

      
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