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12-06-2017 , 11:06 AM
Amazing that #MeToo is Time POY with Trump sitting in office.
12-06-2017 , 11:08 AM
12-06-2017 , 11:18 AM
elbows too pointy
12-06-2017 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by toddw8
elbows too pointy
Nh
12-06-2017 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by toddw8
elbows too pointy
from way downtown!

12-06-2017 , 12:08 PM
If you're curious how voter suppression is going to look like just look how it was done in the recient past
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In 1981, during a campaign for governor in New Jersey, the Republican National Committee launched a “Ballot Security Task Force” that sent sample ballots to voters in predominantly African American and Hispanic precincts. When 45,000 letters were returned as undeliverable, the RNC tried to remove the voters from the rolls. To challenge those voters if they showed up to cast a ballot, it hired off-duty cops to patrol polling sites in black and Hispanic neighborhoods in Newark and Trenton. The officers carried firearms and wore armbands reading “National Ballot Security Task Force,” and the RNC posted large signs at the polling places saying, “Warning: This area is being patrolled by the National Ballot Security Task Force. It is a crime to falsify a ballot or to violate election laws.”
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...essing-votes/#
12-06-2017 , 12:11 PM
does anyone else feel weird about Taylor Swift being included in that Time cover with to people like McGowan who risked their entire careers and lives and had psyops performed against them by Mossad agents and **** to speak truth to power?

Obviously it's awful and gross to be assaulted in any way by anyone, and it was cool that she owned the guy so hard in court, but it's just...not the same as these other women at all?

the fact they've included her and not Gretchen Carlson looks really bad imo
12-06-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
This would be probably be so vague as to be unenforceable since money is fungible. It seems like what you actually want is a trust that pays out to your parents while they are alive and then goes to A, B, and C afterwards, but you're gonna need to have something professionally drawn up for that.
I'm ok with trusting them.
12-06-2017 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
If you're curious how voter suppression is going to look like just look how it was done in the recient past


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...essing-votes/#
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After the election, the Democratic National Committee won a court settlement ordering the RNC to “refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities” anywhere in the country. That 35-year-old consent decree expired last Friday, potentially allowing the Republican Party to undertake new voter suppression efforts, such as purging voting rolls and challenging voters at the polls, under the guise of combatting voter fraud.
I love how the absolute worst penalty these guys ever face, after a prolonged court battle, is "hey, stop doing that". Sure is a huge deterrent!
12-06-2017 , 01:13 PM
12-06-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
does anyone else feel weird about Taylor Swift being included in that Time cover with to people like McGowan who risked their entire careers and lives and had psyops performed against them by Mossad agents and **** to speak truth to power?

Obviously it's awful and gross to be assaulted in any way by anyone, and it was cool that she owned the guy so hard in court, but it's just...not the same as these other women at all?

the fact they've included her and not Gretchen Carlson looks really bad imo
Disagree completely.

She subjected herself to courtroom interrogation/depositions, did not seek any monetary damages, and then donated a huge amount to anti-harassment orgs because she really wanted to show how awful all of this is.

What she did took a ton of courage and she did it purely to try and help other women who have faced similar harassment.

And don't forget that was BEFORE all the Weinstein, etc. **** came out.
12-06-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
does anyone else feel weird about Taylor Swift being included in that Time cover with to people like McGowan who risked their entire careers and lives and had psyops performed against them by Mossad agents and **** to speak truth to power?

Obviously it's awful and gross to be assaulted in any way by anyone, and it was cool that she owned the guy so hard in court, but it's just...not the same as these other women at all?

the fact they've included her and not Gretchen Carlson looks really bad imo
What champstark said, or

12-06-2017 , 01:29 PM
Putin running for 2018-2024 RU prez... ldo
12-06-2017 , 01:49 PM
yeah...I mean, you're not wrong. It's hard to articulate without feeling like (being?) an *******, but Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Lauer, Rose - these guys were media titans with a ton of power and influence to destroy your career in the industry. Not some pos radio DJ. Like, if you're going to include her, why not include someone like Kesha, where the power dynamics with her abuser were actually much more similar?

It just seems cynical by Time to put a superstar on the cover who is only tangentially related to the greater story, while leaving Carlson off and not mentioning her in the story at all, whose actions were objectively a) wayyyy more risky/brave/ballsy and b) wayyyyy more impactful.
12-06-2017 , 01:56 PM
Maybe if Carlson hadn't spent a career apologizing for and empowering right-wing dip****s I might feel more sympathy.
12-06-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
yeah...I mean, you're not wrong. It's hard to articulate without feeling like (being?) an *******, but Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Lauer, Rose - these guys were media titans with a ton of power and influence to destroy your career in the industry. Not some pos radio DJ. Like, if you're going to include her, why not include someone like Kesha, where the power dynamics with her abuser were actually much more similar?

It just seems cynical by Time to put a superstar on the cover who is only tangentially related to the greater story, while leaving Carlson off and not mentioning her in the story at all, whose actions were objectively a) wayyyy more risky/brave/ballsy and b) wayyyyy more impactful.
Carlson should have absolutely been in the story.

Swift is not tangentially related at all. Your discussion of power dynamics is extremely male-centric and just flat out wrong.
12-06-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Carlson should have absolutely been in the story.

Swift is not tangentially related at all. Your discussion of power dynamics is extremely male-centric and just flat out wrong.
The power relationship of an aspiring actress to Weinstein, a Fox News staffer to Ailes/O'Reilly, a young theatre kid to Spacey, a mid-level female comedian to Louis CK, a congressional staffer to Franken are all extremely similar. Those dudes all got away with that **** for years, sometimes decades, because they were important enough to be effectively beyond repercussions - until now.

Taylor Swift got groped by a creep (in 2013) and immediately told his bosses, got him fired, and then crushed him in court when he tried to sue her for loss of earnings. The women (and men) in the situations above did not have the ability to do this. That's all I mean. I don't in any way mean that because she has money and lawyers that what happened to her is not as bad, or anything like that.

If you mean that all of these situations including Swift's are rooted in a wider culture of misogyny and toxic masculinity that's designed to excuse men for ****ty behaviour and shame women out of speaking, then I agree with that obviously.

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edit: okay I will also concede maybe I'm just biased because I don't like Taylor Swift, and don't think she's admirable in the way that the other women profiled are, and think that presenting yourself as a feminist role model while literally never having said a negative word about the rapist president (or the rapist presidential candidate) for the last two years is not cool.

Last edited by Kafja; 12-06-2017 at 02:39 PM.
12-06-2017 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
yeah...I mean, you're not wrong. It's hard to articulate without feeling like (being?) an *******, but Weinstein, Ailes, O'Reilly, Lauer, Rose - these guys were media titans with a ton of power and influence to destroy your career in the industry. Not some pos radio DJ. Like, if you're going to include her, why not include someone like Kesha, where the power dynamics with her abuser were actually much more similar?

It just seems cynical by Time to put a superstar on the cover who is only tangentially related to the greater story, while leaving Carlson off and not mentioning her in the story at all, whose actions were objectively a) wayyyy more risky/brave/ballsy and b) wayyyyy more impactful.
Time is obviously trying to limit the story primarily to Weinstein. Can't have any discussion of Trump, Moore or Ailes while trillions in tax cuts hang in the balance.
12-06-2017 , 02:39 PM


replies are good
12-06-2017 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
In other news, AlphaGo got bored one afternoon and decided to learn chess (also shogi). After about four hours it was playing at a higher level than Stockfish (the current champion AI). Ultimately beat Stockfish by a score of 25-3-72. There's even a catty footnote from the authors about how the drawishness of chess made it hard to run up the ELO score on Stockfish.

ME: Seems like a big deal that this go AI started with zero domain-specific knowledge and became the best chess-playing computer in the history of the world in four hours.

REST OF FORUM: Lol AI. Call me when the computer can... *looks at notes, flips through pages with increasing speed and agitation* ah, yes, write superhumanly erotic historical romance novels.
I am obsessed with AI rn and reading everything I can find about it.

I had Thanksgiving with a friend of a friend as I am in a new state and don't have any family here. Anyways, the guy is extremely wealthy and was interested in my talk re AI and asked me about opportunities for investment. Any thoughts on what I should tell him?
12-06-2017 , 02:45 PM
You should probably just launch an ICO for a scam AI-themed coin and rip him off.
12-06-2017 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12


replies are good


Hey, look, Murdock wants his house not to burn down, the fire wants to burn his house down. Can’t we just compromise?
12-06-2017 , 02:55 PM
If there is an Internet Jesus, someone will modify that Compromise? meme to have fire on one side and Murdock's house on the other
12-06-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
You should probably just launch an ICO for a scam AI-themed coin and rip him off.
this is a good post
12-06-2017 , 03:40 PM
Brag: after wondering why the BFI bitcoin thread says I've posted in it, I discovered that 2011 goofyballer apparently mined at least 0.05 BTC (currently ~$650)
Beat: 2017 goofyballer has the hard drives from that machine (and no other desktop hardware capable of using them) sitting in a closet. Is there some series of cables/adapters that will let me hook up a SATA hard drive to, say, my laptop's USB?

      
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