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12-15-2016 , 04:38 PM

#1151

FoldnDark

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Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,930

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

0 times per day. You Americans are admirable for your optimism, even if it does sometimes prove to be groundless and lead to massive disappointment and soul searching.

Us Europeans are unfortunate enough to have had proximity to Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini/Franco etc.

Hang in there, dude. It should be clear by now, none of us know wtf we're talking about and whatever will be will be. Too apathetic optimistic?

12-15-2016 , 04:58 PM

#1152

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,685

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoldnDark

Call it what you want, I'd find it pretty despicable if Christians only gave charity to other Christians, or on the condition they come to church. Any churches who operate like that get negative virtue points from me!

It's isn't impressive but blackmail is the threat of some sort of harm unless something is complied with. It's not the offer of help if something is complied with (a protection racket can look like the later but is really the former)

12-15-2016 , 04:59 PM

#1153

chezlaw

Limey Bastard

Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 48,685

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Maybe trump falls under 'trying everything else'

12-15-2016 , 05:06 PM

#1154

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,415

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Eagle

It's worked so far, why stop now?

I just have to emote harder.

12-15-2016 , 05:10 PM

#1155

FoldnDark

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Bloody cheznit, if you're drowning and I come with the buoy, but hold onto it until you gargle "My Country Tis of Thee" there's little difference now is there ol chap?

12-15-2016 , 07:05 PM

#1156

Trolly McTrollson

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12-15-2016 , 07:41 PM

#1157

JoltinJake

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,236

Pretty interesting graph in this Matt Yglesias article from yesterday. Full description in the article, but cliffs are - growth not as important as an egalitarian income distribution if you are trying to increase social mobility.

12-15-2016 , 08:38 PM

#1158

ChrisV

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Well, thanks a lot America, apparently this **** is contagious:

Quote:

Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has urged Australians to “rise up again” amid claims a school in his electorate changed a Christmas song to make it non-religious.

“You make my blood boil with these stories,” Mr Dutton told 2GB’s Ray Hadley. “It is political correctness gone mad and I think people have just had enough of it.”

A 2GB caller known as Jim told Hadley he had attended his grandchild’s end of year school celebrations at Kedron State School and the words of ‘We Wish You a Merry Christmas’ had been changed to ‘We Wish you a Happy Holiday’.

Mr Dutton said Christmas carols were “normal” and likened the move to teachers wearing pro-refugee T-shirts in NSW and Victoria, saying he believed the majority of their peers were “embarrassed” by the behaviour.

“Many of the people, regardless of their religious belief, would be there happy to sing along with Christmas carols, happy to enjoy the fact that we celebrate Christmas as a Christian society and it’s beyond my comprehension,” Mr Dutton said.

“It’s gone too far and this might be a bit of — back in ’93 when Paul Keating was prime minister where people were walking on eggshells with what they said. People had a gutful of it and I think we’re back to the same stage now and I think we need to rise up again, people need to speak again.

“The vast majority of Australian people want to hear Christmas carols, they want their kids to be brought up in a normal environment. They don’t want to be lectured do by do-gooders who frankly don’t practise what they preach.”

While around 60% of Australians identify as "Christian", only about 8% attend church weekly. In 2008 a Gallup poll found 70% of Australians said religion was either "not at all important" (37%) or "not very important" (33%) in life. In 2011 a survey found 19% of people would "definitely" attend a church service at Christmas, while 38% have never attended such a service. A quarter of the country are atheist.

Unfortunately Christians are hugely over represented in Parliament, especially in the ruling Coalition. Nobody in Cabinet is atheist and half of them are Catholic.

12-15-2016 , 09:42 PM

#1159

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

This is the third ****ing time that bull**** has been linked

Do any of you ****ing read these links or is this just headline ****? The man who wrote that article literally fails to understand, at a fundamental level, a story teaching children not to lie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

Is it worth pointing out all the specific ways?

2 I noticed:

1. A small to medium-sized wolf with a small to medium-sized mean disposition, and a big-ass wolf with bared fangs and raised fur, are still both wolves. There's no No True Wolf-cum-Wolfadile Dundee that's-not-a-wolf-this-is-a-wolf situation when it comes to wolfspotting.

2. Wolves travel in packs. So, if you see 1 wolf, no matter how friendly he looks, there's most likely a gang of them right around the bend.

These dudes are actually crying, "Wolf, but it's just 1 wolf! And look, he's small and fluffy and is licking my hand for some reason! I think we'll be OK."

Also, I think we're well past the 3rd time.

12-15-2016 , 09:49 PM

#1160

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FoldnDark

Bloody cheznit, if you're drowning and I come with the buoy, but hold onto it until you gargle "My Country Tis of Thee" there's little difference now is there ol chap?

There's a big huge wide grandcanyonish difference, and you not seeing it is the root of The FoldnDark Dilemma.

12-15-2016 , 09:51 PM

#1161

DudeImBetter

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FB derpers busy spreading claims of voter fraud in Detroit, with there allegedly being more votes than their should be in many precincts. This of course is only being reported on by InfoWars, Zero Hedge and the like.

Last edited by DudeImBetter; 12-15-2016 at 10:00 PM.

12-15-2016 , 09:56 PM

#1162

Loki

binary duo

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 12,772

Does anyone on this forum quote themselves as much as 5ive?

12-15-2016 , 09:59 PM

#1163

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoltinJake

everybody says you got it easy if your parents are rich, this graph proves them wrong, CHESSMATE

12-15-2016 , 10:00 PM

#1164

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

FB derpers busy spreading claims of voter fraud in Detroit, with there allegedly being more votes than their should be in many precincts. This of course is only being reported on my InfoWars, Zero Hedge and the like.

I think it came from this Detroit News report. I don't know how reliable they are (isn't the Free Press the big Detroit paper?) but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Auditing of the voting process is a good thing no matter who winds up benefiting.

12-15-2016 , 10:05 PM

#1165

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

The investigation of election fraud is real (more ballots cast than voters showed up at the polls) in a bunch of precincts.

12-15-2016 , 10:05 PM

#1166

Huehuecoyotl

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Cliffs: "Winners" of global trade take their winnings and hide it or do tax manipulation so to keep for themselves the compensation that's supposed to go to the losers.

Quote:

As a result of this transfer pricing structure described in the Senate report, technically speaking, Apple doesn’t export very many “design” or “software” services. The relatively low price it charges to its offshore subsidiary reduces service exports in the balance of payments while inflating the income line in the balance of payments.

Apple here is really a metaphor. It is the most high profile case, but it is—judging from the size of reinvested earnings in the balance of payments and the cash balances various firms have built up abroad—far from unique.

Certainly the profits that U.S. firms now report in low-tax jurisdictions—Ireland, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, the Caribbean, Singapore—are now large relative to U.S. exports of software and research and development services.**

There is a broader point here. Trade theory says that if the winners from globalization compensate the losers from globalization, everyone is better off. But I am not quite sure how that is supposed to happen if the winners are in some significant part able to structure their affairs so that a large share of their income is globally (almost) untaxed.

http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2016/12/...ervices-wonky/

12-15-2016 , 10:10 PM

#1167

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,485

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

Does anyone on this forum quote themselves as much as 5ive?

einbert and dvault both quote themselves a

12-15-2016 , 10:11 PM

#1168

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

einbert and dvault both quote themselves a

lot.

12-15-2016 , 10:23 PM

#1169

Loki

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 12,772

Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Well yes and no. The recount is rigged too! That's all it takes to discredit it, unless Trump wins.

There is no amount of proof that will convince conspiracy theorists, of which a huge portion of trump voters and GOPers are, that voter fraud isn't some huge issue akin to unicorn rabies. Both huge issues partly because we can't find proof one way or the other!

12-15-2016 , 10:25 PM

#1170

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

12-15-2016 , 10:25 PM

#1171

5ive

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6,766

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

Does anyone on this forum quote themselves as much as 5ive?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

Yes, and some posters much more.

qft

12-15-2016 , 10:28 PM

#1172

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,090

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoldnDark

You're wrong. You and anyone who agrees with you would do well to read and reread everything Scott Alexander has ever written.

I've already addressed it, repeatedly, but just to remind you that YOU didn't even read that bull****, I'll ask the same question that has stumped every other ****ing racist who uses "boy who cried wolf" as an argument for liberals to stop calling things racist:

When did you come to the pasture? When was the time you believed the liberals and got burned?

FoldN, you used to be a ****ing Holocaust denier, and I don't think you are anymore. At least not publicly on 2p2. That's ****ing progress.