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It's about the social environment people are raised in, which we are all products of to a greater or lesser degree, including your family who raised you.

MAGA chuds get no free pass for anything.

02-20-2019 , 01:25 PM

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What about the group that broadly stereotypes people?

You are broadly stereotyping a group with that statement.

02-20-2019 , 01:47 PM

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It's about the social environment people are raised in, which we are all products of to a greater or lesser degree, including your family who raised you.

MAGA chuds get no free pass for anything.

So different environments produce different people, and different generations are raised in different environments, and you conclude that everyone is all the same? Good people on all sides?

02-20-2019 , 01:48 PM

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They had choices about which messages to believe. They chose the ones that they chose. Choices have consequences. Why should their choices consequences be born primarily by the rest of us?

Exactly, Jimmy Carter laid out some harsh truths in the 70s and told people we needed to do some work to fix **** and then Ronald Reagan (the actor!) came rolling in basically saying "**** this depressing *******, let's make America great again!" and was overwhelmingly elected.

02-20-2019 , 01:54 PM

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So different environments produce different people, and different generations are raised in different environments, and you conclude that everyone is all the same? Good people on all sides?

Different environments produce people with different values. Different generations are raised in different environments, so there are some clear generational differences in values at similar ages.

I don't see this leading to a discussion about good and evil but humans clearly have great difficulties in accepting loss of status/privilege/wealth with equanimity. And no, before you jump all over it, that's not excusing anyone for anything.

02-20-2019 , 01:57 PM

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OP is the guy who whined that he didn't get his from Obama when I pointed out that Obama helped out people in general. lol at him calling people selfish.

02-20-2019 , 02:03 PM

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Which is the generation bringing measles back?

02-20-2019 , 02:04 PM

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The MEasles generation of course.

02-20-2019 , 02:14 PM

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I don't know much about OP and don't want to suggest this tweet applies completely to them, but it's worth bearing in mind regardless.

02-20-2019 , 02:22 PM

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The boomers are only the worst because they have most of the power. More power = more bad. Which is why the only solution is to flatten hierarchies and distribute and dilute power at every opportunity.

02-20-2019 , 02:24 PM

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The generation that is 0-10 years old right now will 30 years from now be posting on their VR hologram boards saying our safety net should be cut because we're the generation that still eats meat. Imo, talking about whether people *deserve* social security is a tarp. If we don't want to get eaten by the rich, the framing has to be that everyone is entitled to social security as a right.

02-20-2019 , 02:24 PM

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Which is the generation bringing measles back?

Andrew Wakefield was born in 1957, according to Wikipedia.

02-20-2019 , 02:27 PM

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He's probably not the mother of most of the unvaxxed kids. I'm just not sure if it's kids of Millenials, or if the Gen Xers started it, b/c Gen X hasn't been getting enough hate itt.

02-20-2019 , 02:32 PM

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It’s probably fair that the Boomers are the last generation to remember when polio was a thing and later genations are the ones ****ing up getting their kids vaccinated. That’s a fair reason to judge them.

But still I don’t see a lot of pushback from the oldsters. Like, which generation voted in a president who peddles anti-vax bull**** from a debate stage?

Let’s get real, if Boomers we’re still making babies, they’d be the prime target for anti-vax bull****.

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02-20-2019 , 02:52 PM

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Is the group that stereotypes groups that stereotype groups a superset or subset of the group that stereotypes groups?

02-20-2019 , 02:54 PM

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Does the set of all groups that stereotype themselves stereotype itself?

02-20-2019 , 03:12 PM

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OP, my bootstrap MAGAtard grandmother is living off 4k/month pension from working as a librarian for 25 years.

most of the people you would be hurting by gutting SS/Medicare arent the ones voting for Trump.

you dont know what you are talking about and you come off like you are trying way too hard to impress your new friends

02-20-2019 , 03:26 PM

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This take is almost as dumb as all the old people takes about millennials. Broadly stereotyping any group is dumb and counterproductive.

Discussing why a generation of people (on average) is terribad seems productive to me.

#NotAllBoomers

02-20-2019 , 03:29 PM

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Discussing why a generation of people (on average) is terribad seems quite productive to me.

#NotAllBoomers

Humans in mass suck. It has nothing to do with generations.

02-20-2019 , 03:38 PM

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I mean, it obviously does, though. Environment matters a lot.

So yeah, if you want to argue that boomers are like naturally bad or something, that's obviously stupid. But if you want to examine how the environment has impacted them, that seems entirely worthwhile to me just as it is for various other groups of people.

02-20-2019 , 03:48 PM

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Name a generation without war, poverty, and other terrible things. And then name a generation that doesn't have good actors.

02-20-2019 , 03:58 PM

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good and bad people on both sides itt

02-20-2019 , 03:59 PM

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Lol @ thinking there's sides itt

02-20-2019 , 04:15 PM

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I'm joking. The point is that different groups of people ARE obviously impacted by their environment, and it's worth examining those impacts. Just as it is for racial/gender groups. In fact, we spend a ton of time on this very forum trying to explain those impacts to right wingers who just can't fathom why other groups of people can't succeed as easily as white men.

02-20-2019 , 04:30 PM

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The point I'm trying to make is it's not environmental when you compare generations. Ever since the Enlightenment period (probably even before that) every generation has been redefining what's good and bad. When you keep updating definitions and such and all the same problems remain (though shifted) it's time to get introspective about your species.

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