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Old 11-25-2016, 01:23 PM   #126
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Look what happened to them when the did come forward. The president of the most powerful country in the world threatened to sue them and they got a torrent of abuse on social media. Not to mention that there's a tape of trump saying he did this stuff and you still dont believe them it's tough to imagine you would have been much more believing 20 years ago or whatever.

You know how mean liberals give you a sad and make you vote trump. What do you think vile and disgusting abuse and disbelief does to these women?
First I would like to say that Trump being elected seems like a surreal nightmare, and also I am Canadian.

Secondly he wasn't elected at the time the allegations were made against him. The timing seems awfully convenient imo, and none had any witnesses to his alleged actions.

Also they were afraid to come forward when he was just a business man, but are now not afraid when he is the Republican nominee?

Seems fishy to me, sorry if that offends, I call them like I see them. Also 60 million Americans obviously didn't believe the accusations.
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Old 11-25-2016, 01:44 PM   #127
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why didn't they come forward when it first happened?
Trump explained this on the tape. He said when you are a rich and powerful celebrity, you can get away with things. When a girl is afraid to accuse the captain of the football team, think what it's like going up against Trump.

They started coming forward when other women came forward, and some of them did tell others at the time of the incidents. Reporters have found people who said that yes, 20 years ago so-and-so told me she'd been groped by Trump.

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60 million Americans obviously didn't believe the accusations.
Plenty believe it but don't care, or don't find it any different from their own milieu. I mean, this is the guy who mimicked a man for being handicapped. Why would we expect his gross behavior to suddenly stop when it came to women?

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Old 11-25-2016, 01:49 PM   #128
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Secondly he wasn't elected at the time the allegations were made against him. The timing seems awfully convenient imo, and none had any witnesses to his alleged actions.

Also they were afraid to come forward when he was just a business man, but are now not afraid when he is the Republican nominee?

Seems fishy to me, sorry if that offends, I call them like I see them. Also 60 million Americans obviously didn't believe the accusations.
Not true or misleading on almost every count here. There were no witnesses to the events themselves (surprise! Trump didn't commit a felony in plain sight of a group of strangers). But most of the women had friends from the time of the alleged incident who stated for the record that the friend told them of the incident immediately after it occurred. So unless the friends are in on the conspiracy, it seems very unlikely that nothing happened to the women and they're just making it up for no gain and probably a good deal of grief considering how some Trump supporters act against anyone who hurts their daddy.

As for why they waited to come forward, well for one, not all of them did. Those that came forward early, their stories were not front page news until the Access Hollywood tape dropped, in which Trump states quite plainly that he did the things he's accused of doing, although some sources have it this may be mere "locker room talk." And to those that waited, perhaps they were okay with Trump going on with his business life, especially since their allegations could realistically have no effect on that, but were not okay with their assaulter attaining the highest office in the land (especially after he brags about it on video tape)? Just a theory.

Moreover, Trump's voters did not all discount the allegations.

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A Washington Post/ABC News poll recently asked respondents whether they believed that Trump “probably has or has not made unwanted sexual advances toward women.” Sixty-eight per cent of registered voters believed that he had; only fourteen per cent believed that he had not. Forty-three per cent of likely voters in the poll said that they would vote for Trump, suggesting that a significant portion of Trump’s supporters think that he’s lying, and do not care.

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Old 11-28-2016, 10:52 PM   #129
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I have posted on these forums for 11 years. I mostly come in to the politics forum to post when there is a thread about racism in law enforcement, or the criminal justice system. I come in to post and defend my law enforcement brethren.
I'm assuming you're a cop and I'm curious where. My guess is that you can't work for big city department like like NYPD or Chicago PD because it would pretty hard to miss the system wide racist policing that goes on in these big cities. In other words, you couldn't possibly be as shocked as you seem.
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:24 AM   #130
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Old 11-29-2016, 01:55 AM   #131
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Old 06-28-2017, 03:16 PM   #132
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https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017...tt-1000-people

This is across the street from a rental property I purchased in Chicago. 1,000 person gang party with loud music, drugs, liquor, and strippers. Neighbors are upset, because cops aren't doing their jobs. This type of party happens every weekend at the same location.

Is this a product of the egg shells Chicago Police are walking on?

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Old 06-28-2017, 03:29 PM   #133
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On a scale of 1-10 how ingenuous would you say that question was? For reference my question here is about a 3, not very ingenuous at all.
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Old 06-28-2017, 03:31 PM   #134
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What does this have to do with BLM exactly?
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Old 06-28-2017, 03:43 PM   #135
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On a scale of 1-10 how ingenuous would you say that question was? For reference my question here is about a 3, not very ingenuous at all.
3, I'm serious about the question. As a taxpayer, I expect certain services like law enforcement. (The above party led to a coupe shootings.)

However, looking at it from a cops' perspective, the risk-reward isn't there for them to enforce the law in a situation like above.

Cops HAVE to approach situations with more caution, and is this the result of said caution? What's a cop supposed to do?
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Old 06-28-2017, 03:53 PM   #136
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What does this have to do with BLM exactly?
Saw "black people in general" and thought well, this is the right place to concern troll.
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Old 06-28-2017, 04:06 PM   #137
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Saw "black people in general" and thought well, this is the right place to concern troll.
Actually, that's accurate. My bad.

I only read JMAN's first post about systematic racism.

Also, someone said something about Chicago police.
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Old 06-28-2017, 04:13 PM   #138
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https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017...tt-1000-people

This is across the street from a rental property I purchased in Chicago. 1,000 person gang party with loud music, drugs, liquor, and strippers. Neighbors are upset, because cops aren't doing their jobs. This type of party happens every weekend at the same location.

Is this a product of the egg shells Chicago Police are walking on?
And the cops didn't shoot anyone? I'm making a note here: "great success"
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Old 06-28-2017, 04:47 PM   #139
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Actually, that's accurate. My bad.

I only read JMAN's first post about systematic racism.

Also, someone said something about Chicago police.
seems an odd thread to seek out, given it hasn't had a post in over half a year
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Old 06-28-2017, 07:36 PM   #140
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What does this have to do with BLM exactly?
Black people appear to be having fun every weekend and the police aren't allowed to murder them. ****ing SJW are ruining everything.
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:17 PM   #141
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https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017...tt-1000-people

This is across the street from a rental property I purchased in Chicago. 1,000 person gang party with loud music, drugs, liquor, and strippers. Neighbors are upset, because cops aren't doing their jobs. This type of party happens every weekend at the same location.

Is this a product of the egg shells Chicago Police are walking on?
"I pulled myself up by the bootstraps after receiving a small loan of 1 million dollars from my daddy and it's all being ruined by THE BLACKS."
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:31 PM   #142
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Seems like our hero is quite the businessperson making large investments in lawless areas
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:42 PM   #143
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seems an odd thread to seek out, given it hasn't had a post in over half a year
Search function yo.

And I agree the system is racist/rigged. I had to evict the old tenants because they weren't paying rent. They lost their gov't subsidized assistance because one of the tenants was convicted of a felony.

However, what's a businessman making large investments in lawless areas supposed to do?
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:05 PM   #144
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So what exactly were you searching for?

I ask because you don't seem to have had any posts itt before today.
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:09 PM   #145
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So what exactly were you searching for?

I ask because you don't seem to have had any posts itt before today.
"Chicago police"
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Old 06-28-2017, 10:57 PM   #146
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Search function yo.

And I agree the system is racist/rigged. I had to evict the old tenants because they weren't paying rent. They lost their gov't subsidized assistance because one of the tenants was convicted of a felony.

However, what's a businessman making large investments in lawless areas supposed to do?
Vote for politicians who won't take away their subsidies
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:23 AM   #147
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From the party link:

"Nearly a dozen area homeowners, who asked not to be named for fear of retribution, said they are fed up with the city's failure to stop the dangerous gang parties that plague the neighborhood.

A neighbor who has lived in the area for six years knows the Father's Day party is so routinely unsafe that he opts to leave the city for the weekend every year.

"My neighbors describe it as dread. We dread the weekend," he said. "And unfortunately Father's Day sets the tone for the entire summer."

A homeowner who has lived in the area for more than a decade said the "constant party atmosphere" with drugs, loud music, gambling and littering destroys the neighbors' quality of life. Police are called to intervene, but nothing changes, neighbors argue."


Don't law-abiding black lives matter?
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Old 06-29-2017, 09:28 AM   #148
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Littering? These sounds like some hard-core gang-bangers.
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:49 AM   #149
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From the party link:

"Nearly a dozen area homeowners, who asked not to be named for fear of retribution, said they are fed up with the city's failure to stop the dangerous gang parties that plague the neighborhood.

A neighbor who has lived in the area for six years knows the Father's Day party is so routinely unsafe that he opts to leave the city for the weekend every year.

"My neighbors describe it as dread. We dread the weekend," he said. "And unfortunately Father's Day sets the tone for the entire summer."

A homeowner who has lived in the area for more than a decade said the "constant party atmosphere" with drugs, loud music, gambling and littering destroys the neighbors' quality of life. Police are called to intervene, but nothing changes, neighbors argue."


Don't law-abiding black lives matter?
It was a Sunday night party, it's not like neighbors have to go to work on Monday.

On a serious note, the gang members come from far south and far west of Chicago to party. They go home after the party is over. The neighbors are the ones left cleaning up the litter. I don't know what kind of media coverage and reaction there'd be if this happened in a white neighborhood.

Also, music video produced from party footage:


https://youtu.be/EPhp0-tXn00

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Old 06-29-2017, 11:04 AM   #150
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Hey, look, 10 year olds with guns. Maybe we should create a law that bans 10 year olds from carrying firearms. Because once there's a law in place to revoke their access to guns, they'll naturally follow it, right?
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