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03-16-2015 , 03:26 AM

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In a beautiful collision of sports and politics, John Oliver went HAM on the NCAA tonight and it was just as pornographic as you would expect.

03-16-2015 , 10:06 AM

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Mike Leach 4 Prez

03-16-2015 , 10:15 AM

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Seriously tho, the whole idea of schools running sports teams (at any level) is ****ed.

03-16-2015 , 11:41 AM

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Seriously tho, the whole idea of schools running sports teams (at any level) is ****ed.

word.

03-16-2015 , 11:53 AM

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i would love to be a fly on the wall when one of those bama 5 star recruits can't make it to the 5 am workout because he was up late studying to become an engineer.

clearly they'd say, "you're here to play football *******, not to become an engineer." and if he didn't fall in-line, he'd be out of there in short order.

that whole student-athlete thing is absurd.

03-16-2015 , 11:59 AM

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Do people who think that college athletes should be paid also think they should be required to attend the University? What's the argument for not letting schools compete with the pros for the same players, the way they do with coaches?

03-16-2015 , 12:02 PM

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No they can be required to go to classes.

They sure as hell should compete with pros... but you can't actually enter the pros unless you've finished one year of college in basketball or two years in football so.....

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03-16-2015 , 12:13 PM

metaname2

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But why? If Michigan can spend millions to lure Harbaugh from the NFL, why can't they do the same to get Drew Brees? I don't see what the NFls own rules should have to do with anything.

03-16-2015 , 12:21 PM

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But why? If Michigan can spend millions to lure Harbaugh from the NFL, why can't they do the same to get Drew Brees? I don't see what the NFls own rules should have to do with anything.

Oh you mean compete with the NFL that way? Well.... that's really dumb. NCAA isn't trying to be the XFL.

03-16-2015 , 12:21 PM

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The free market is good, unless it isn't.

03-16-2015 , 12:22 PM

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lol how far gone do you have to be to think that the NCAA has anything to do with the free market? It's a bunch of mostly governmental institutions running **** with specific government cover.... why do you bother?

03-16-2015 , 12:24 PM

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The only students getting paid at an NCAA event are employees of the university working concessions. Because students can't just be employees of the university.

03-16-2015 , 12:28 PM

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Exactly, with their tax-exempt status, huge endowments, and alternate funding sources, college teams should have a competitive advantage over pro teams if they didn't handcuff themselves with these weird rules. I guess you just don't have any school spirit.

03-16-2015 , 12:36 PM

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colleges not wanting to be the nfl isn't the sick troll you seem to think it is.

03-16-2015 , 12:37 PM

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although, fun fact: nfl is a nonprofit organization

03-16-2015 , 12:44 PM

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If you were a Michigan fan, you'd want college football to die too.

03-16-2015 , 12:49 PM

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colleges not wanting to be the nfl isn't the sick troll you seem to think it is.

But colleges do want to be the NFL, I assume that's the point of the John Oliver video?

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although, fun fact: nfl is a nonprofit organization

As point of fact, I did not know that. Although I see that at least the NFL has football mentioned right there in the mission statement, which most non-SEC schools do not.

03-16-2015 , 12:54 PM

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No that's not the point of the Oliver video.

03-16-2015 , 12:56 PM

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If you were a Michigan fan, you'd want college football to die too.

HARBAUGH!

03-16-2015 , 01:12 PM

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although, fun fact: nfl is a nonprofit organization

weird... when goodell is making 40mil/year (or whatever). maybe they do that so they can qualify for these taxpayer funded stadiums (which is absolute dog**** deal for citizens).

03-16-2015 , 01:16 PM

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The individual teams aren't tax exempt.

03-16-2015 , 03:27 PM

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Of the many things that are terrible about the NCAA, and with the note that obviously the Rutgers guy went way too far, one of my smallest concerns is coaches swearing at their players.

(says a guy very happy to have him team coached by Mike Leach and not the "my beautiful children can do no wrong" god awful hack he replaced).

(also in that clip Leach is swearing about his players in an interview, not to his players)

03-16-2015 , 03:37 PM

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Paying players opens up some complications though.

1) Are you going to pay non big time athletes? Frankly it's ridiculous that women's sports basically get funded by football and basketball programs because of title ix... there probably would need some sort of legislation needed if you're going to pay male athletes but not female ones.

2) well **** it i got other things to do atm, but it's a complicated process. The current **** is just so unfair though.

3) agree with dids wrt yelling. Boo hoo oliver you wuss.

03-16-2015 , 03:49 PM

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(also in that clip Leach is swearing about his players in an interview, not to his players)

that's actually a lot worse in my book, though Leach did include himself in the list of people who should get bent

03-16-2015 , 03:58 PM

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ike is pissed that women's sports get funded by Title IX, but not pissed that every other men's sport besides football and basketball also gets funded by it. Because bros gotta look out for bros, and girls should just be in baby-making classes. Or something.

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