100% this. if TRUMP has any more press conferences, reporters better ****ing keep asking this stuff, they can keep inducing more of these meltdowns.

If Kelly is worth anything as a Chief of Staff he will keep TRUMP far away from reporters for the next few weeks.

Obv would have been better if police officers had been there to calmly lecture the armed yahoos on the moral danger of direct action and violence.

I think it's a very fair question as to where removal of a statue is needed or not.

I'm really outraged that nobody asked him why Caribbeans do so well in track and field.

I like this mom she seems like a nice lady.

do they sing the national anthem before sporting events in England?

A police presence at a synagogue shows the people congregating there that they are not alone; that they have the support of their community.

The isolation is the terror. Read the article again. What does he return to? It's not the nazi's. It's the other people standing up next to the synagogue and saying "we are here for you".

That's because they will be treated differently if they don't disavow in an adequate manner.

...and yet so very stupid to frame it as removing the statue because the person depicted "wasn't perfect" and likening them to Jesus ****ing Christ. This is a poker site, you ever heard of a "tell"?

Right, that's what I'm saying! Then they can totally laugh and be like "ha ha, look at the funny people who want to kill us!" You're so smart to have thought of this solution!

odds that any cabinet secretaries resign before the end of the week?

2 to 1

Why would the UK honor the people who revolted against them? You'd have to be a pretty dumb nation to do a thing like that.

the point is that voting to remove the statue gets the statue removed

Lol

iamnotawerewolf, can you please comment on the above?

Not Rees Mogg as far as I know. He briefly stopped supporting trump (over the 'pussy grabbing' tape iirc) but then decided he was wrong.

There's a few UKers here. Any others have that horrible sneaking feeling that he might end up as PM? I feel like slapping myself because I must be mad to think such a ridiculous thing isn't beyond any chance of happening, but ...

What are you talking about? This is a weird pivot away from what you were talking about before, how everyone just needs to laugh at the Nazis (ha ha! they're so funny!), but: Charlottesville voted to remove their statue! Baltimore voted to remove theirs! That still doesn't make these dip****s happy! See: your bitchfest all over this thread, and also...

A police presence is fine, but 1000 citizens would be better. Not better because they are more effective at violence, but because that shows the Nazis that they, the Nazis, are alone. Some police, doing their job, with a wide mix of personal feelings doesn't show much other than what the mayor and police chief think. If the police skip work and guard a synagogue, mosque, or black church while off duty, that would be powerful!

Yes and I wish I'd included him in my Dutch bet of potential candidates who aren't Bonkers Boris. He is, of course, an A1 arse.

Old fashioned Major succeeded robotic Thatcher. Maybe these Tories will follow the same path.

Now stop derailing this thread.

lol

I guess God Save the Queen or whatever they sing before international sports events. just wondering if they sing before every damn domestic sports contest like we do here.

Not every domestic event at all, but the major ones (finals etc).

Yeah... oh wait.

Right, that pretty much sums it up right there.

It's sung formally at internationals sporting events. Club level events the crowd sometimes sing it during the game.

It's best during cricket games vs the Aussies when we sing 'god save YOUR gracious queen' (Only time I'd ever join in).

I just got lol'ed after pointing to using civil process to remove a statue.

I've remarked previously that violent conquest of nazi'ism last century has not stopped the nazi'ism now.

I've pointed to Ghandi and MLK's victories as evidence of the power of non-violent resistance.

This depends on what outcome you are after. For me, it is not enough for the nazi's to go home.

I don't want the nazi's ever to come back.

For how long, though? Do you want your grandchildren to have to deal with them again?

This goal I can get behind, but I don't believe in the efficacy of Deterrence, so I don't see how hitting nazi's with sticks discourages their children from nazi'ing it up.



Elsewhere, in the POG thread, I've posted at length on the superiority of Soft Power. For here, I'll suffice it to leave the reference for others to google.