But if that includes an appreciation for math logic physics, chemistry, biology and anthropology the bad stuff is much less likely to stick (nowadays).That's why you shouldn't be that upset with Kamela Harris.

A non-sequitor that makes exactly as much sense as the one about Kamala

What in the **** does this whataboutism have to do with the chain of posts you were responding to? jfc

Not if you think that accepting truancy is approximately as bad as a fairly painful and regular corporal punishment.

Treat them like the criminal organization they are. Conspiring to protect pederasts merits longer prison terms than are given to el chapo. Strip their tax exemptions and put them all in prison where they belong.

8 million people in the 1600's is a lot of people. Pretty sure the total population of the world was like 600M or less at the time.

Finally got around to watching Spotlight after it's sat on my DVR for years. Burn the entire thing to the ****ing ground.

545 million - 579 million so 8 million is around 1.4% to 1.5%.

And this wasn't the only bloodshed that followed the Reformation by any stretch of the imagination. No question it was an ugly era for Christianity.

Kind of wish I was born after religion died out. Surely there's a better way to help people cope with their own mortality.

Philosophy

I am not a huge fan of religion but religion has more often than not served as counter weight to the reigning powers and/or as avenues of revolution.

The way I see it is the more diverse people's core reliefs are the better. When it converges on only one set, be it communism, religion, or even just some fanatical leader, bad things happen. As a people, we are more capable of change if we're constantly negotiating between different sets of values (which can also be constructed as sources of moral legitimacy and therefore power) and religion, to me, is just another source of such beliefs that we negotiate with.

Australia's former Prime Minister John Howard provided a character reference for Pell

lol conservatives, etc.

Definitely not just a conservative thing, if the Spotlight stuff is to be believed. Any and everyone who was anyone in Boston, conservative or otherwise, twisted themselves into pretzels defending and covering for Bernard Law.

Catholic diocese and former bishop in W.Va. knowingly employed pedophiles, according to lawsuit filed by state attorney general

The lawsuit, the latest dramatic civil action against the American church in the past year, alleges violations of the state’s consumer protection laws. It accuses the diocese of advertising safe environments for children while at the same time, the complaint says, choosing “to cover up and conceal arguably criminal behavior of child sexual abuse.”

The lawsuit is seeking a permanent court order “blocking the diocese from continuation of any such conduct.”

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They include a priest, Victor Forbas, who the complaint alleges was known to have a credible sex abuse accusation against him. Despite knowing, Morrisey’s news release says, the diocese “ordained Forbas as a priest … and years later named him director at Camp Tygart, now known as Camp Bosco.” It alleges that parents weren’t told about Forbas’s past and that he was assigned to a high school. The priest eventually wound up in prison and died in 1993.

“Another priest admitted on his employment application to having been accused of child sexual abuse decades earlier, yet the civil complaint alleges the diocese passed on the opportunity to thoroughly vet the priest and adequately check his background. Instead, the Diocese and two bishops employed the priest for approximately four years at a parish that operates an elementary school,” the news release says but doesn’t specify when.

A long prison sentence for the bishop would be a huge win. Without this kind of complicity there's no incentive to chuck offenders out (aside from their conscience). And since it's part and parcel of their religion that they accept repentance as some kind of safeguard against recidivism, why bother involving the secular government? He was a good man after all. He was just tempted by the essence of satan emanating from the little boys *******. He said sorry though, and you know what? I think he really meant it!

When you start with that ******ed premise it becomes pretty easy to rationalize why the action that helps them avoid legal heat or public embarrassment also happens to be the right thing to do.

Ex-Pope Benedict XVI breaks silence on church's sex abuse crisis and blames the sexual revolution and liberals

There was apparently no sexual abuse committed by priests before the 1960s

I just opened that link, eventually read it, thought "I should post that to the **** the Catholic Church thread on 2+2", navigated back here, realised that's where I got it from.

Definitely the problem is not ENOUGH sexual repression, keep working at it, you'll crack it.

There was some moron priest here in France the other week that went on national TV and essentially said "Yeah, but, it's so difficult because the kids are asking for it!"

Honestly. https://www.newsweek.com/french-prie...eeking-1367496

Benedict XVI was a terrible Pope... so incompetent (why he had to go) and intolerant (opening door for Francis) that he was forced to resign. (first to resign in centuries).

The man was just really bad at his job.

He also somehow went through that whole experience without learning a thing.

If they learned anything, ever, we wouldn’t be here.

Extremely NSFW language, go to 3:20 or so for relevant jokes.

What choice do those priests have except stick their penis into those children?

There was a scene in Spotlight where a priest justifies his behavior because he was never "gratified" and according to the writers that really happened.

https://www.boston.com/culture/movie...n-in-spotlight