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04-09-2019 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Referendum is becoming more likely with the passing of time. Even some Tories are now publicly backing the idea, but there's a long way to go before they can even agree on the choices.
Just hand every person of voting age a blank sheet of paper and a pencil and them them to write what their conscience tells them to write
04-09-2019 , 04:35 PM
We'd get 30 million different answers and 5 million drawings of erect penises. Erect penis wins.
04-09-2019 , 04:40 PM
Pressure in the Tories also building though, a long delay could mean they oust May and put in some Brexit happy loon. God knows what happens then.
04-09-2019 , 04:42 PM
It's a proper little bubble of non-reality in here today, isn't it
04-09-2019 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
If there's one thing politics has taught me over the past few years or so is that the opposite is the case when it comes to referendums.
This....

I think criminal charges need to be applied for maximum outrage for the football hooligans who never got their day.
04-09-2019 , 05:38 PM
Sounds like EU sez no to June 30.


If she can't even deliver no deal, she should **** off now and give another chancer a crack at it.

It's nice of EU to give us 9-12 months to properly prepare for no deal while our MEPs mess with their federalisation program.
04-09-2019 , 05:43 PM
You mean 8 months to agree the referendum questions that will result in us remaining in the EU.
04-09-2019 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
Sounds like EU sez no to June 30.


If she can't even deliver no deal, she should **** off now and give another chancer a crack at it.

It's nice of EU to give us 9-12 months to properly prepare for no deal while our MEPs mess with their federalisation program.
Have/are you signing up for the reserves?
04-09-2019 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Have/are you signing up for the reserves?
Tempted
04-09-2019 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You mean 8 months to agree the referendum questions that will result in us remaining in the EU.
You mean those questions drawn up my the MPs who said they'd respect the 2016 referendum and will give us a choice of

1) mostly remaining
2) remaining


Seems legit. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.
04-09-2019 , 05:53 PM
Works for me.

Anyway why should thousands of dead leave voters have a say in the long term future?
04-10-2019 , 01:08 AM
Most of you are underestimating the possibility that the (probably well founded) impression May is making on EU leaders is one of a bad faith and credibility lacking charlatan. They could get so fed up today that they just close the door.

What's the point of an extension when there is no viable or credible plan proposed for what will change during the extension?
04-10-2019 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
It's a proper little bubble of non-reality in here today, isn't it
The UK voted for a Brexit which was due to on the 29th of March. Now we do have the 10th of April. Just looking at the facts tells us, that the UK Government and the Parlament failed to deliver Brexit.

You had the option of a No-Deal Brexit and a Brexit with a Deal, both options were declined. The EU wont substantially change it´s Position. What happens now is that different Options will be put on the table all of which are going to lead to the UK remaining. As said, the UK failed to deliver on Brexit. So now the options to stay will be evaluated.

I dont like that either, after all this Bull**** from the UK, the EU citizens should also have a vote on whether or not the UK is allowed to stay.
04-10-2019 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Most of you are underestimating the possibility that the (probably well founded) impression May is making on EU leaders is one of a bad faith and credibility lacking charlatan. They could get so fed up today that they just close the door.

What's the point of an extension when there is no viable or credible plan proposed for what will change during the extension?
The EU are deciding what they want to do. May's input is almost entirely irrelevant at this stage unless she does something very dramatic (which is most unlikely).
04-10-2019 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bacalaopeace
Most of you are underestimating the possibility that the (probably well founded) impression May is making on EU leaders is one of a bad faith and credibility lacking charlatan. They could get so fed up today that they just close the door.

What's the point of an extension when there is no viable or credible plan proposed for what will change during the extension?
Your English is very good for a native Russian speaker.
04-10-2019 , 02:53 AM
04-10-2019 , 03:18 AM
I'd much prefer Cabinet Disembowler 4, where senior Tories swing at each other with rusty hooks
04-10-2019 , 05:24 AM
Reports this morning that the EU are split between extending to December and March next year, while Macron is reported to be demanding that Britain loses its EU Commissioner as a price for the long delay to Brexit.

Or it could all be spin.
04-10-2019 , 06:23 AM
Prime gammon and **** Nick Ferrari gives up on Brexit.
04-10-2019 , 06:40 AM
There's also suggestions that if there was no extension then parliament would vote to revoke article 50.

Which would be a) brilliant, b) very funny as the erg are trying to annoy the EU into not offering an extension and c) brilliant
04-10-2019 , 07:51 AM
European election polling.

https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog...ary-elections/

Out of whack with other surveys but pretty startling.
04-10-2019 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
There's also suggestions that if there was no extension then parliament would vote to revoke article 50.

Which would be a) brilliant, b) very funny as the erg are trying to annoy the EU into not offering an extension and c) brilliant
and d) would edge us closer to a no confidence vote and general election in which the Tories would have even less credibility than they do currently. In this scenario they'd probably drop to close to their assumed bedrock support of low 30s percent.
04-10-2019 , 09:54 AM
I think there's a need of one more extension before revoking

Then it shows they have really tried, and people get more used to the idea

The "let's get over with this" will then not be a no-deal but a revoke. That's more than OK.

Last edited by plaaynde; 04-10-2019 at 10:04 AM.
04-10-2019 , 10:52 AM
This is a national embarrassment, Theresa May going begging for another extension.

Just look at this direct quote and threat to see how scared the EU are of a member state forcing them into a no deal scenario

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Any EU country that vetoes an extension and, as a result, causes economic and political harm to other member states particularly vulnerable to a no-deal Brexit — including Ireland, but also the Netherlands, Belgium and France — "wouldn't be forgiven for it," the Irish leader told broadcaster RTÉ.
https://www.politico.eu/article/brex...mely-unlikely/

It's abundantly clear from that quote that no deal is an outcome that scares the EU and as such we should just leave with no deal, unless they come forward with a proper compromise. It is incredibly incompetent to take our bargaining chips off the table. Even if they did not wish to compromise (which they would), things would be just fine here in the long run.

Whats the point in begging for another extension when we have to take part in elections that cost money and apparently no deal is "off the table". The EU will just continue to offer us the same crappy deal until we accept it or revoke A50. There are no other outcomes that can occur that trouble them with the way things are.
04-10-2019 , 11:00 AM
She's "been very clear" apparently, won't answer the question on what she will do if the EU force a longer extension. full Maybot mode activated.


Last edited by SootedPowa; 04-10-2019 at 11:00 AM. Reason: Still wants her deal ratified though ldo

      
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