Theresa may.

I wonder if the ERG start pushing for a second referendum with No Deal on the table, perhaps accepting a Remain option too.

Your NF-lites are right up there with Trump.

Your country has its fair share of anti-vaxxers as I've seen them before.

AR toting teachers? Fair enuff.

My read is that May could **** in her hand and wipe it on her face at the next PM's Questions and still keep her job because that's still somehow preferable to a Labour PM

And yeah she'd still be preferable to Trump by a wide margin if she did that, but who wouldn't other than maybe one of the leaders Trump admires like Putin, MBS, etc

Fyp

Comparing may to trump is ludicrous.

If they're the relative nut lows then UK >>>>>>>> USA

Unfortunately May was one of the better tories and we can, and might very soon, do way worse.

Trump is polarising. He is loved by many and also hated by many.

May is not really liked by anyone. She's in a tough position with Brexit. Under normal circumstances, she would have more support. But Brexit is a polarising issue and unfortunately she is right in the middle of it.

I'm sure that despite their much-vaunted "principles", if polls showed No Deal ahead of Remain they would.

It's fun when liberal Yanks start showing an interest in UK politics, even if it is only to troll their hubris damaged by two years of Trump.

Ah. International Rescue. Sadly, they won't be coming, since today we lost my old friend Connie's friend Shane Rimmer, the unforgettable voice of Scott Tracy. He's also remembered for his Bond films, and frankly it's worth sitting through The Spy Who Loved Me just to hear Shane, as the US submarine skipper, say 'Match bearings -- and shoot!' in that glorious voice, as the good guys torpedo their way out of the bad guys' fake supertanker.



I'd also put in a word for Shane's performance in the 1976 BBC film Billion Dollar Bubble, also starring James Woods and Christopher Guest, about the giant Equity Funding computer fraud in the US, when an insurance firm boosted its share price by faking records of non-existent policy sales to non-existent customers, which gives rise to the excellent line, from one faker checking another faker's work, 'You just gave a 60-year-old man a hysterectomy.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Billion_Dollar_Bubble



Shane appears right at the beginning, as one of the corrupt execs doing a press conference. But his greatest scene comes when the auditors are in the building, and he's upstairs fielding their calls, pretending to be different branch managers at different regional offices (with different regional US accents) and assuring them that yup, we sold that policy, got the details right here, it all matches, y'all have a nice day now, then putting the phone down and reverting to character, harassed and frazzled, and the phone rings again and as he picks up he asks a sidekick, 'Who am I now?'

Start?

I falsely registered as a member of Captain Sensible's political party yearrrrrrs ago

The DUP have acted more honourably re. Brexit than most other MPs.

Jon Snow signing off from Ch4 news (from outside Parliament and the pro-Brexit ralllies featuring Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage) ...

"what an extraordinary day ... I've never seen so many white people in one place before"

Dude should visit Wigan.

I haven't been following this closely as of late.

Seems that Monday there'll be another round of indicative voting on alternate plans.

Some questions:

1. Is it the same plans that were all voted down before?

2. What are the key differences between the alternate plans such as labour's, common market, and customs union? They all seem to be softer Brexits to me.

3. Can ranked voting on these things be done in the UK? It'd be an interesting approach as it would force Parliament to come together with a preferred option rather than saying no to everything.

4. How much of this really matters? I mean the deal is the deal. There's no changing it according to the EU. I guess it'll give people an idea on how much support there is for revoking A50 or a second referendum but most of it seems like a whole lot of nothing.

5. Wouldn't it have been better to do this vote early in the process instead of now?

I only know of Wigan because of FIFA '18, what's the deal?

Seems like a bluff to push Parliament into accepting May's deal by rejecting another extension without directly saying it, no?

Last thing they (and likely most of the UK wants) is no deal.

Here's the big Brexit march, as seen from the air. You can see that the protesters, who earlier illegally blocked roads, only just fill Parliament Square. Not quite the turnout that the Remain march got last Saturday. Despite those headline appearances by Farage and, er, 'Tommy Robinson'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...views-of-rally

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ing-bye-bye-eu

Cathy Newman of C4 News reports that at a late stage, as the drunk thugs got awkward, police had to don riot gear. Again rather unlike last Saturday.



Also the thugs have been singing Rule Britannia and yelling 'We love Trump' at the gates of Downing Street.



(Funny thing about the thug version of Rule Britannia: they tend to sing 'Britannia rule away' instead of 'Britannia rules the waves.' They literally don't know how it goes.)

No. The EU do not bluff. That is not a thing that they do. And May's Withdrawal Agreement (which was only No Deal with a ribbon tied on to fool people, and the ERGs admitted today that they would tear it up and go to No Deal as soon as May resigned) is dead. It's pretty much down to No Deal or Revoke. And sane MPs know their lives won't be worth much come No Deal.

This was quite sad, though also funny. Again, unlike last Saturday.



The whole thread is... instructive.

https://twitter.com/jonatharden/stat...71042001567744

BOIDS these are your peeps getting all Trumpy with it!

The EU aren't bluffing but they also aren't remotely ruling out an extension. The 'no deal is likely' comes from a concern about the UK parliaments inability to come up with anything sensible rather than what they want.