Letting fewer brown people in is a good thing to Brexitards.

No matter what nonsense people like diebitter throw out, it is ultimately misdirection that covers up the real reason: bigotry.

Same old remainer demonising of people who don't want to be in the EU as stupid racists.

You guys just can't concieve of other reasons people dont want to be in the EU, can you.

You are the one boxing people in to your own ill informed made up negative stereotype.

Exiting the EU is a good way to stop white people emigrating to the UK, brown people not so much. Not sure I buy that argument.

No deal is less popular than all of those.

It will be another two referendum questions.

The first in/out. The second, if out wins questions one, will define the type of out between something super soft like Norway+ up to something very harsh like the May deal.

Immigration is greatly down thanks to brexit. That pushes up employment whilst disguising less jobs being created.

Basically we increased the share of a smaller pie.

That is why we have some kind of mythical high employment combined with one of the worst performing G-number economies.

What wasnt predicted is how the uncertainty around Brexit would freeze many of the job decisions. If we actually have a decision, no matter what, there will be an overnight shift in the employment market. If we voted for May's deal we would have had an increase in redundancy consultants working out who was dead weight ahead of March 29. As it is we wont have any changes until at least mid April, or mid May, or maybe ever.

What a lot of people missed is that the effects of brexit will essentially happen after brexit. Why would the effects of brexit happen now when up to 60% of the electorate wants another referendum to vote remain in?

Did you miss the central theme of the Leave campaign?

I mean you probably did because, like me, we werent the target for the racist ads about Turks and refugees forced on us etc. It was only after the fact remainers found out just how toxic the leave campaign actually was (shortly after the Leave campaign helped murder Jo Cox and remainers didnt get why a discussion on trade deals would result in the political asssassination of an MP).

The "breaking point" poster with the millions of brown refugees invading Britain wasnt a one off at the 11th hour (and was unveiled a couple days before Jo Cox was murdered). But if you werent a friend of the "aint no brown or black in the union jack" facebook group you didnt see these messages for months.

You see the effect of this regularly on discussions with leavers, where they talk of a "changing Britain". This is barely even a dog whistle at this point. Most of them dont even disguise what they mean when they get a follow up question (which is rare in the media because they dont want to know the truth).

Net migration has been fairly constant.
The number of people in work has risen.

Of course the effects of brexit will mostly be afterwards. Unfortunately we had lots of silly rhetoric that undermines anything anyone it's aimed at might believe.

There's also a deep irony in posters here claiming brexit supporters are racist about immigration when one impact of it so far (and most likely in the future) is replacing white European immigration. It's probably the only good thing about brexit.

There is no irony in that.

The irony is racist Brexiters voting for the Brexit that seems to have replaced European immigrants with non-European immigrants. This without a doubt is not what most of them wanted.

There's no doubt that it's a scary time.The failure to engage with leave voters is our biggest danger whether it's another referendum, a GE or considering European elections.

Still fancy the remainers/softer brexiters to prevail but it's going to be a hell of a few weeks and could easily go horribly wrong

If we need a proxy to define the racism of the Leave campaign, recall that UKIP since the oughts (if not the 90s when it was founded) was pushing for an Australian points system.

Now, set aside that Australia has a hugely racist migration system, this was adopted pretty widely by the leave campaign throughout the referendum campaign. And to be fair being points based, if implemented well, it can be a good migration system.

But then someone did the maths after the referendum and it showed a huge shift increasing eligibility to emigrate for Chinese and Indian migrants who have high levels of English, have high levels of education and high levels of skills and other related experience.

The idea was swiftly dropped. They couldnt even work out an unfair way to calculate a "fair" points system that they could back after brexit. Now we are just banning anyone who isnt a footballer or a literal brain surgeon.

Oh yeah there's an irony. Intention matters hugely says the wise people but we get shouted down by those who say no no no.

and we have to be very careful not to be the ones playing the race card.

Very happy if immigration is same but turning to having usefully skilled people come to the UK rather than randoms who are allowed in cos EU sez so.

Excellent result.

All leave voters please report to your british farms to help with the harvest and prevent harvest losses.

So apparantly a big number of harvest hands from Eastern Europe stays away because the uncertainty of Brexit.

That will be a problem. From my experience, having lived there for a while, everyone in England either already has a job or is so drunk/fat 24x7 that they can't bend down to tie their shoes. And, not entirely coincidentally, all in the second category are leavers.

Good luck with keeping the same level of skilled migration. Professionals come to England because that's where those jobs are. They don't come come for the ****ty weather, ****ty food, dreadful commute and disgusting women. Already, and especially after Brexit day, there are fewer of those jobs and they pay less (converted to Euro/another foreign currency).

Pretty scummy.

His anti-women comments are pretty awful, as you'd expect from him.

Racist ****.

How many unskilled workers from the EU is there that is directly taking a job and influencing british workers negatively (or gaming the system)?

How many are skilled workers?

Mass demonstrations today against the new EU copyright bill, which is the major reason for me switching to leave from being a remain voter. Apparently the final vote on it is Tuesday.

"Upload filters", real time monitoring of all internet posts and mass censorship. **** that

https://www.dw.com/en/eu-copyright-b...ans/a-48037133

Yep, mentioned it earlier - will be an absolute travesty if that gets passed. We should be in EU and vetoing it, but lol, more likely it began with the "let's ban encryption" tories.

In other news, money well spent:

_dave_

No member state has veto power over that stuff any more.

And the EU are chipping away at the veto powers left so it can 'be more democratic' (talking in the usual EU Orwellian doublespeak way).

Loss of veto in so many areas is the main reason I believe a seat at the table is now pretty much worthless, and that the EU balance of power has now shifted way too far towards the EU diktat.

Remainers saying a second ref is democratic, do you realise democracy means means the citizenry voting on a reasonably frequent basis?

So do we get to vote about EU membership on a regular basis after Ref 2 then? If not, it's not democratic so please stop trying to sell it as that. It's plain old subversion of a democratic result, and you just need to accept you are being anti-democratic.

And if it's a one off referendum that isn't intended to be regularly repeated, fine by me but only if it is available once the result of Ref 1 has been carried out.

The only acceptable ref 2 before that is to clarify the mechanism of leaving, and 'remaining' shouldn't even be an option in that case.

No need to get butthurt about my previous comment. Look at these pictures and tell me I am lying:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Britain.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-morning.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-New-Year.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ping-warm.html
These are all from NYE, but I lived in Manchester, all this is like an average Friday/Saturday night out in the city center. I have also lived and visited lots of other countries. You don't see this anywhere else.

And huge lol at the 'you racist' response. 1) British is not a race 2) Your whole country is about to commit economic suicide because 10+ million of you don't like foreigners.