Brexit Referendum - Page 54 - Politics and Economics

This is just lol narratives.

Wages where doing fine until 2008, then something happened cant put my finger on what.

Then a bit later a government was elected who promised Austerity, literally less stuff.

All immigrants fault though.

Spoiler:

06-24-2016 , 03:11 AM

#1327

The Imp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

If it wasn't for the Euro-crises I think Scotland would have voted out last time.

Do you think things have gone far enough now for them to accept the Euro?

We'd be fine with the Euro I'd imagine. The uncertainty was we were told a vote for independence was a vote to leave the EU (i.e. no real option to use the Euro). The currency debate last time was dominated by whether we'd be able to keep using the pound.

I'd rather the UK stay together but we've never been more divided politically or socially... and with the rise of the far right in England it looks like getting worse in the near future.

06-24-2016 , 03:13 AM

#1328

LektorAJ

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There were some pretty wild theories about the influence the football might have on the referendum. I think it's nonsense but strictly for lols there seems to be a very close correlation:

Wales - 1st in group - still in (52.5% leave)
England - 2nd in group - still in (53.4% leave)
Northern Ireland 3rd in group - still in (44.2% leave)
Scotland - failed to qualify, 4th in qualifying group (38.0% leave)
Gibraltar - failed to qualify, 6th in qualifying group (4.1% leave)

So the only ones out of line are Wales and England, and only by a whisker.

06-24-2016 , 03:19 AM

#1329

BitchiBee

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Originally Posted by smrk2

I said I'm on board the "racist train"; I'll clarify, I'm on board with the idea that there was a racist component to how some people voted. I didn't say who, I didn't say how many, but this leads to your second source of confusion. You seem to have a far narrower (like, if somebody favors brown people hanging from trees = racist, no = not racist) conception of racism. I do not have that narrow conception, I think there is a continuum of racism and varieties of racism, so you're close to begging the question if you accuse me of carelessly smearing people by assuming racism means what you think it means.

Let me spite your post back at you.

ok I'm on board with the fact that theres a racist competent to your posts. Im not gonna clearly define what I mean by racist but be clear its not narrow like yours its a beautiful continuum in my mind and you are clearly racist.

06-24-2016 , 03:19 AM

#1330

BertieWooster

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BitchiBee

lol so mad

Brexit doesn't affect me too much, I remain an EU citizen and likely won't be living in Britain much over the coming years.

Triumphalism is never a good idea in such situations, remember the 48% who voted remain and try for something approaching a consensus. Don't let an egomaniac dominate proceedings.

06-24-2016 , 03:20 AM

#1331

DrawNone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooksx

This is our re-electing George W Bush moment. Only much worse.

The factual arguments are so overwhelmingly in favour of remaining that it's almost silly that there was ever any discussion. The economy, trade, international influence, immigration, everything pointed towards remain. Leave have sold an insubstantive pack of lies.

I heard it said on the BBC that the 'stay' campaign recently published a prospective post-Brexit budget with draconian cuts to services, really shoving in everyone face the idea that voting to leave is for morons. the commentator blamed that budget for the result, saying 'leave' didn't win as much as the people in charge of 'stay' bollocks everything up. any truth to that in your opinion?

06-24-2016 , 03:23 AM

#1332

BitchiBee

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Originally Posted by BertieWooster

ok you have a point here

Its just the man worked for decades on this, I say let him have a moment of jubilation

06-24-2016 , 03:25 AM

#1333

Onlydo2days

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Cameron resigning

06-24-2016 , 03:26 AM

#1334

Gin 'n Tonic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by [Phill]

Makes sense.

FTR this might be the one issue that could cause me to vote lib dem if a snap election is called, or at the next general i suppose.

No way I'm voting for any leadership that backed leave.

****, Gove or Boris could be PM next week ffs.

Given the result Boris might be the best of a bad bunch, negotiation wise.

I ****ing hate to see fat boy get rewarded for his treachery, but it might be for the best.

06-24-2016 , 03:26 AM

#1335

100zAndUp

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Is cameron quitting leading to even more uncertainty fk up the pound even more or?

had 0 sleep. sry for horrible sentence lol

06-24-2016 , 03:27 AM

#1336

sixfour

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Bye Dave

06-24-2016 , 03:27 AM

#1337

Subterranean2

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hehe

06-24-2016 , 03:28 AM

#1338

BertieWooster

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 100zAndUp

Is cameron quitting leading to even more uncertainty fk up the pound even more or?

I imagine it's been priced in. Fact that he isn't leaving straight away probably helps.

06-24-2016 , 03:33 AM

#1339

LektorAJ

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Originally Posted by DrawNone

Well even if you buy the "post-Brexit recession" theory then you would never respond to that by increasing taxes, so it was seen as the "punishment budget".

06-24-2016 , 03:35 AM

#1340

smrk2

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Originally Posted by BitchiBee

That's fair enough, I guess one difference is that I find your post harmless and amusing whereas you were clearly rustled by my post. I'm sorry that I caused you distress.

06-24-2016 , 03:38 AM

#1341

Labax

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BertieWooster

I imagine it's been priced in. Fact that he isn't leaving straight away probably helps.

This ^

Still a **** situation..

06-24-2016 , 03:40 AM

#1342

tomdemaine

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£200B lost on the ftse opening. GG you racist pricks.

06-24-2016 , 03:43 AM

#1343

tomdemaine

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At least we can get rid of all our foriegn nurses and teachers and cripple healthcare and education in one stroke.

06-24-2016 , 03:44 AM

#1344

the pleasure

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why would they do this?

can anyone give me 1 or 2 reasons why they wanted to do this?

06-24-2016 , 03:45 AM

#1345

kep

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wowsers

06-24-2016 , 03:45 AM

#1346

Kukraprout

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Cameron's replacement could be the last PM of the United Kingdom and the first one of Englandwalesistan. Fun times ahead.

06-24-2016 , 03:46 AM

#1347

tomdemaine

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I hope every racist old ****er who voted for this **** has to eat cat food when their pension craters.

06-24-2016 , 03:46 AM

#1348

tomdemaine

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Yeah. I mad.

06-24-2016 , 03:47 AM

#1349

DarkMattersMan

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Hi Im a politics donk. Could someone please tell me the benefits to this brexit? Also, I'm hearing about financial disaster. But, is that just temporary volatility and could it stabalise?

06-24-2016 , 03:48 AM

#1350

Habsfan09

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On its website, the SNP backs remaining in the EU, reminding constituents that the EU "safeguards your right to a paid holiday," and the right not to work more than 48 hours a week. It explains that EU laws protect women's rights during pregnancy, including statutory paid maternity leave, and ensures the right to equal pay and protections against discrimination.

So what's the status of that in UK without EU law? If these rights are not guaranteed ...

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