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06-24-2016 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Good to know that British conservatives are also so high on their own supply that they somehow convinced themselves that their base is motivated by something other than panicky racist anger. Lot of chickens came home to roost in 2016.
It depends what you mean by "conservatives", but a lot of the areas voting most heavily for leave, for example in the Northeast are not ones which the conservative party would traditionally have any chance in.
06-24-2016 , 02:15 AM
Seems like only the parasitic elite and some angry, uniformed 16 year old kids on 2p2 think remaining was the right choice. I can't believe any sane adult who spent any time at all researching what the EU is, who it represents, and what it clearly wants to achieve, would think that's wise?

Knee jerk reactions in the market are obv expected lol. All this talk of racism and what not is also a joke and exposes ignorance . Immigration is not the biggest reason for vote leave believe it or not.
06-24-2016 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by smrk2
If the hood fits
17 million people voted for leave, if you want to smear them for voting for racist reason thats just delusional. This is why the word is losing power, using it to describe anyone who disagrees with the leftist world view is getting old

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Who want to work in a factory apart from brain dead uneducated mouth breathers
?? Wat

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Seems like only the parasitic elite and some angry, uniformed 16 year old kids on 2p2 think remaining was the right choice. I can't believe any sane adult who spent any time at all researching what the EU is, who it represents, and what it clearly wants to achieve, would think that's wise?
For conservatives who want small and local government the EU is the antithesis of what they want. Its a large, undemocratic authoritarian nightmare. The dream of a united Europe is digusting for many.
06-24-2016 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by KennyJPowers
Who want to work in a factory apart from brain dead uneducated mouth breathers
Nice.

Someone has to make your cars and boats and planes ect

Calling them mouth breathers seems ignorant.
06-24-2016 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by malefactor9
Seems like only the parasitic elite and some angry, uniformed 16 year old kids on 2p2 think remaining was the right choice. I can't believe any sane adult who spent any time at all researching what the EU is, who it represents, and what it clearly wants to achieve, would think that's wise?

Knee jerk reactions in the market are obv expected lol. All this talk of racism and what not is also a joke and exposes ignorance . Immigration is not the biggest reason for vote leave believe it or not.
My money is on the fact that you have no clue about what the EU is and does.
06-24-2016 , 02:21 AM
If unhappiness with immigration is a big reason for what happened today, who is ultimately responsible? Thanks Obama for Middle East collapse? GWB for destabilizing it for no good reason? Europeans did it to themselves, lol colonialism?
06-24-2016 , 02:24 AM
You wanna know who the real stupid people are?

They just announced the official numbers

~200 people turned in blank ballots
~9000 people turned in ballots with BOTH selections made

Trolls? Morons? Senility?
06-24-2016 , 02:25 AM
MI5 obv made mistakes when they were rigging the vote
06-24-2016 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
You wanna know who the real stupid people are?

They just announced the official numbers

~200 people turned in blank ballots
~9000 people turned in ballots with BOTH selections made

Trolls? Morons? Senility?
Got to be trolls. The ballets could not be more simple.
06-24-2016 , 02:25 AM
Farage on CNBC is going nuts talking about mass exodus from the EU
06-24-2016 , 02:25 AM
Both selections are 100% trolling
06-24-2016 , 02:26 AM
I guess its end of civilisation soon.

Cameron: Leaving the EU would lead to WW3
Juncker: Brexit would be the end of Western political civilisation

Any ideas of the timescales? 10 years?
06-24-2016 , 02:27 AM
Bank of England 'will take all necessary steps' to keep financial system stable in wake of U.K. vote to exit EU.
06-24-2016 , 02:28 AM
Farage saying all the wrong things: talks about knocking down the EU. Reconcile, man, reconcile!
06-24-2016 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BertieWooster
Farage saying all the wrong things: talks about knocking down the EU. Reconcile, man, reconcile!
That half-hearted crowd of grim blokes behind Farage and his closing line was cringe-tastic
06-24-2016 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Zombiefan
Nice.

Someone has to make your cars and boats and planes ect

Calling them mouth breathers seems ignorant.
These are not low skilled jobs I have a friend who worked a a boat factory he was college trained and had a trade as a electrician there were not 100s of people fighting for his job, Most factory jobs require not qualifications and are soul destroyingly boring
06-24-2016 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Zombiefan
I don't think Britain should leave but calling ppl who did want to leave racist and stupid is silly.

You cant say working class people who haven't had pay rises in years because of an unlimited labour supply are simply stupid or racist because they believe voting for brexit is in their own self interest. Maybe i see this differently because my parents are working class and 100% not racists.
This was a vote between doing nothing and punching ourselves in the face repeatedly and we as a country chose the punches because its a new experience and hey maybe being punched in the face isn't so bad.

Stupid is the kindest label that can be applied to the leave camp.

The saving grace is we probably end up with the Norway deal so we still have free movement of people and capital and still follow eu laws whilst still paying in 300 mill, just no rebate now. So we at least we gained less power over our own laws at the cost of six billion a year and the rest largely stays the same.

Plus we will be paying in euros i bet so that six billion is much higher due to the pound weakening so hard.
06-24-2016 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MvdB
And lol @ independence day. Independent from a voluntary consensus based union, where you had the power to block anything you disliked. That will surely give you a much higher degree of freedom. Lmao
So there aren't going to be fines of 250K euro per migrant for countries not accepting the quotas of non-EU migrants? Slovakia isn't suing the EU because it was introduced in an area where vetos should theoretically apply by putting it through the wrong committee by QMV?

None of that was mentioned in the campaign even by Leave because they were obviously afraid of kneejerk accusations of "racism".

In any case the public couldn't "block" things in EU committees. We can only lend power to the people we elect, which they return to us in full every five years, unless, of course they used the structure of the EU to "lock in" their decisions forever with their like-minded counterparts in other countries.

The UK has escaped from something monstrous. Freedom > Money.

Start drinking early today and play this video on a continuous loop:


Last edited by LektorAJ; 06-24-2016 at 02:35 AM. Reason: Change present tense to past tense.
06-24-2016 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
That half-hearted crowd of grim blokes behind Farage and his closing line was cringe-tastic
Jeering, grinning idiots. 'Victory for decent people' - what the hell. He's a total egomaniac.
06-24-2016 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pvn
grunching, so scotland is going to leave the UK now, right?
Hope not. **** em should have campaigned better.

Weakening the remain side and Britain in general as we start exit negotiations would be even dumber than giving the British public the referendum in the first place.
06-24-2016 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
Good to see "People who don't vote the way I vote are just stupid" is an international phenomenon.
Man Fly really nails it with how the #1 issue to Republicans is haaaaaating liberals. This guy can't even LOL at the UK properly, it might put him in league with the evil lefties!
06-24-2016 , 02:37 AM
Should the EU accept British refugees now? They seem to be from an incompatible culture and we wouldnt want to be overwhelmed.
06-24-2016 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MvdB
My money is on the fact that you have no clue about what the EU is and does.
Haha, you'd be wrong.
Just look at the voting spread. The majority of the country except London and Scotland obv, who are even further up the Eu's backside then Cameron voted to leave. I'll admit many people were highly misguided on both sides of the debate, but the EU fan boys on here are pretty amusing. Screaming racism and calling 50% of one of the world's most developed nations idiots is itself, pretty fkn dumb.
06-24-2016 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
17 million people voted for leave, if you want to smear them for voting for racist reason thats just delusional. This is why the word is losing power, using it to describe anyone who disagrees with the leftist world view is getting old.
Here are the 2.5 things that are causing you confusion. The .5 is that apparently you don't understand the how scare quotes work, but that's probably due to your main problem, which is that you see the word 'racist' and you become so shook (like your avatar) that you simply stop thinking about the other words in the sentence and about the basic function of punctuation marks, let alone the possibility of a more nuanced intent in the remark.

I said I'm on board the "racist train"; I'll clarify, I'm on board with the idea that there was a racist component to how some people voted. I didn't say who, I didn't say how many, but this leads to your second source of confusion. You seem to have a far narrower (like, if somebody favors brown people hanging from trees = racist, no = not racist) conception of racism. I do not have that narrow conception, I think there is a continuum of racism and varieties of racism, so you're close to begging the question if you accuse me of carelessly smearing people by assuming racism means what you think it means.
06-24-2016 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
So there aren't going to be fines of 250K euro per migrant for countries not accepting the quotas of non-EU migrants? Slovakia isn't suing the EU because it was introduced in an area where vetos should theoretically apply by putting it through the wrong committee by QMV?

None of that was mentioned in the campaign even by Leave because they were obviously afraid of kneejerk accusations of "racism".

In any case the public couldn't "block" things in EU committees. We can only lend power to the people we elect, which they return to us in full every five years, unless, of course they used the structure of the EU to "lock in" their decisions forever with their like-minded counterparts in other countries.

The UK has escaped from something monstrous. Freedom > Money.

Start drinking early today and play this video on a continuous loop:

Omg some committee was trying to keep other countries to stick to their voluntarily agreed obligations! What tyranny!

      
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