So you're a self centred arsehole without a care for your neighbours or your country.

Don't pretend otherwise.

Says a lot about you when you dgaf about the consequences and are still in here cheerleading.

You're a cretin and destitution will be too good for you.

He strikes me as someone without much of a life to live for anyway. 5000 posts here every year tells us that even without reading the hateful bilge he writes.

Lol ok, though I'm sure Batten was talking Robinson up and they'd probably have no issues him running for them.

You don't think Farage will make a comeback if UKIP starts surging?

Are people convicted of criminal offences even allowed to stand for Parliament?

That little bastard came up here and did not have the balls to even show his face to the people who showed up, ran out the back doors, down a lane covered with security.... I Guess I was lucky at the time, as I would have gotten the jail....
Same with T.R.... another ****e bag.

What?

Lol of course they can.

Yup, there are more restrictions on convicted criminals becoming councillors than on MPs.

Yeah. Robinson would be a perfect UKIP leader actually.

Its a scary though actually, that he can imo, get more support from the underbelly of the UK than farage.... And will mobilize them to vote.

Conviction is no barrier to running for parliment unless you've been convicted of treason or are currently serving more than 12 months sentence.

Have been more than a few convict MP's btw. Paisley being one.

Sounds like what happened to Farage in Edinburgh. I wasn't living around there at the time but that would have been entertaining to watch.

Yeah and that's why he was the first name I thought of.

Like Trump on steroids but without the brains.

Yeah it was... I suppose we were embolden because his 3/4 supporters got escorted away for there own safety....

I missed the T.Robinson show, that was in George Sq... He went in undercover & unveiled himself in the square and within 5 min was protected by the local police.. And that was just saturday shoppers he ran from.

UKIP are the best argument against PR.

I lol'd hard thanks....

He should have went to Wharton.

Marty and I don’t agree on a whole lot but ‘suck it up buttercup’ is exactly right. All this pontificating about bad deals and good deals and Tory failure is bizarre because this result was ****ing inevitable to everyone with half a brain. The fact that it comes as a surprise to brexiteers who are now scrambling to say this is somehow a good thing regardless of the deal is hilarious. I presume they’ve pushed the economic fallout from, I think it was 15 years at last count, to what, an entire generation?

They still can’t name a single EU law that affects the UK to its detriment, nor a law enforced that we wanted to veto but couldn’t, nor a policy that adversely affects the UK, despite two years of asking for just one example.

These morons will die off, but their weird xenophobic idiocy will be left for their children to fix.

Suck it up buttercup.

It's kind of getting clearer that signing a deal where you are in a perpetual customs union where the EU can say no to you leaving unless you you agree to every single thing they want, and you cannot negotiate trade deals in the meantime, is actually just cutting off a no deal exit forever - and creating a clear path to bondage forever. A contact where they commit to 'best endeavours' is not worth the paper it's written on in terms of getting a fair deal.

Would anyone here sign a binding contract with someone that can only be terminated with agreement from the other side on the basis the other side will use 'best endeavours' to do something unspecified for you, whilst it keeps you doing things their way, keeps you paying them money, keeps you from using someone else to be able to do stuff, and the negotiations so far have been you capitulate to every single demand they made at every step?

Norway option gives you ability to leave and ability to make trade deals.

To sign up to this deal is throwing UK's right to exist as a free state in the shredder. The press will eventually catch up and realise this. I hope they do it quickly.

I'm wondering, are the EU preparing a train carriage in France for the signing process?



This will end in the rise of the likes of UKIP and be way, way, way worse than just walking away with a No Deal right now, imo.

It’s almost like they’re negotiating a trade deal on behalf of their member states with a country outwith the union. If you think the EU is playing hard ball from a position of leverage wait until we try to negotiate with the US and China.

If I really wanted to leave the EU, I'd really pissed off by the failure of the UK government to go for it properly. Nothign inevitable about where we are for those who just wanted to leave.

I dont think we should be shy of saying so either because many leavers need to realise that they're best shot at what they consider a 'proper' brexit is a 2nd referendum - are you there yet diebitter?

I don't blame the EU for getting our idiot PM to sign up to a terrible arrangement. Why wouldn't they.

Yeah I think I might be. I'd prefer just a run to no deal at this point, but prefer a second ref to blindly signing up to this horse****. Anyone who thinks it through, remain or leave, recognises this deal is absolutely terrible for the UK. I cannot think of anything worse, other than paying even more money maybe.

I do have at least a crumb of comfort that if things keep going this ineptly, default outcome is my preferred solution.

Given how it's been handled so far, I think it's a solid prospect at this point

I think it's a mistake to rely too much on ruinning down the clock. The EU is quite capable of finding more time when it's necessary and the HoC (and the UK government for that matter) are determined to avoid a no-deal. they will stagger to some deal somehow unless there's a big change of direction by the UK

Leavers are in much the same position on this as remainers. Our bets shots are a 2nd referendum or a GE.

I'm so hating this deal (specifically no ability to terminate - that is bloody awful, but no ability to arrange trade deals is nearly as bad), I'd actually prefer the next referendum be 'stay' or 'no deal' and just leave this ****ty deal out. (I think the thresholds need changing from 50/50 though to make any change now to be based on a decision change, but that's not going to happen.)

I would like to hear some more about likely future permanent trading deal though. If it turns out to be not as bad as the current negotiations indicate (May giving up to the EU on every single point with barely an argument), then I may soften on current transition arrangement (but I have zero faith in May's negotiation abilities at this point). But there's no reason for the EU to soften, they've been given the whip hand, why wouldn't they just beat the cow to death? Makes it easier to skin and butcher.


(Unless some of them are students of history of course. Those in the know will recognise beating a nearby neighbour into shameful submission has future consequences)

A GE clearly won't settle anything with Corbyn and May in charge of each side.