And how does this square with labour promising they will respect the referendum result again?

Please explain how someone leaves the EU and stays in the single market and customs union, I'm all ears.

OTOH, If you'd been paying attention, you'd realise that labour are just trying to be everything to both leavers and remainers. It all worked while they didn't actually have to contribute and could just snipe from the bushes, now May is asking them to contribute, their sad deficiency of rational thought will become clear to everyone.

some versions of Visual Basic.

And some macro stuff in oldschool VBA (Excel iirr)

I should say so. IFF (Identification Friend / Foe) is a transponder set carried by military aircraft which, when interrogated by friendly radar, sends a code identifying the aircraft as non-hostile. Whereas 'If' is a poem by Kipling. You wouldn't want to get those mixed up. It could cause all kinds of problems.

Incidentally, if the no-confidence vote fails as expected (and May proposed it before Corbyn did, to make certain he moved it, because she's confident of winning), it's likely the SNP and Lib Dems will refuse to back further no-confidence motions by Corbyn, which would tend to eliminate his declared and preferred tactic to run the clock down and enforce a disastrous no-deal.

The question you ticked the Leave box against (probably several hundred times) asked you whether you wanted to remain in the EU or leave it.

It didn't ask you anything about the customs union, the ECJ or any other EU body or mechanism.

That was one of the biggest problems with trying to capture public opinion on a complex, multi-faceted issue with a simple binary question.

You hear May saying "The public voted for " and her infamous red lines, when there's no actual proof or even evidence of what she's saying.

What do you think a Norway type deal is?

So why aren't Labour pushing for a Norway type deal then?

They've said that's what they want to negotiate, not only the movement of people with the EU (which might be non-negotiable) but presumably also membership with the existing EFTA members(who might need to be persuaded to let Britain join. It's this extra negotiation that bothers people, because the public have clearly had enough delay.

I cant believe how someone can post in this thread every day and not know all this.

Actually, it's you so I do believe it.

Quite interesting.

Because Corbyn wants a disastrous no-deal which will cause a 'crisis of capitalism' and bring about The Revolution, enabling his tiny mad clique to set up a Stalinist siege economy under a one-party police state, 'socialism in one country,' and then they can kill everybody, which is all they really want from life. Corbyn and McDonnell have made it clear in articles and interviews ever since the 1980s that they are opposed to democracy and that a one-party Stalinist state, which means killing everybody, is what they believe in.

And they've lately made clear that, on winning a general election (as if), they would set up a 'constitutional convention', i.e. a Party Central Committee, to rewrite the rules and ensure that they could never be deposed.

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You sure? I dont remember it in VB. What did it do?

I remember using 'iif' in macros but not 'iff'.

she isn't dead yet

It's definitely sinking in, along with his leadership in general



This one is pretty incredible with May's support among remainers increasing and now overtaking Corbyn



A couple of others...

Prolly the real story tonight - in from 15-1

Only reason May won the confidence vote is because nobody wants to be in her position. They know that they or anybody else won't do any better than she did. They also know that it's easier to criticize from the outside than to risk becoming her replacement and destroying your own career.

I bet Theresa would welcome being ousted in the long run. She can live on some island with her millions while Parliament ruins the country for everybody else.

What a lovely evening, first I got to see Andrew Neil skewering Rees-Mogg and then see Rayner somehow completely ****ing things up against Rudd.

What are you watching? May give it a bash after football

BBC politics special, it has finished now. I am now watching Fawlty Towers, the transition from one to the other was pretty much seamless.

Ah, I was thinking of iif. My bad.


I'm sure I've seen an IFF in some programming language. I used to do a lot of logic programming, so maybe a flavour of Prolog or Lisp....

suggested drinking game for May's announcement:

"Let me be clear"
"the will of the British people"
"Deliver on Brexit"
"Nothing has changed"
"I have listened"
"I've been very clear"
"We must push forward"

etc

Can I have a £10 accumulator please