The EU proposed a Canada deal a year ago, but that was an odd thing to do, because it can't work. They imagined there could be a border in the Irish Sea, but, with May dependent on the DUP (quite strange people who think kids shouldn't play on swings and slides on Sundays, in fact they don't think anybody should ever have any fun at all because they come from that rather depressing Scots tradition), there can't be a border in the Irish Sea, because then the DUP think that the Wolf of Rome would come and swallow them and make them do evil Romish things, shudder. And the EU won't accept a hard border in Ireland either, because the RoI doesn't want one and the EU has to represent the RoI's interests. (And no sane person in the Six Counties or Great Britain wants a hard border either. At the same time, many sane people in the Six Counties are opposed to joining the Republic and it's not at all clear that the Republic really wants to take on all the complications of governing the Six Counties, which would deliver a massive shock to the complacent monocultural character of the Republic, and to its legislature, and might undermine its stability. They didn't spend the 1920s and 1930s ethnically cleansing almost all of the large Anglican Protestant population from the 26 Counties by threats or actual violence, including murder, for nothing, y'know.)

So the deal can't be done. And May keeps saying she won't have another referendum, but another referendum is likely to be the only viable way out of the fix she's in. A Tory leadership coup? Then she could be toast. A general election? Polls predict another hung Parliament, but there's the fringe possibility of a Corbyn-led batcrap-Stalinist regime, which Conservatives presumably wouldn't like. Meanwhile the polls also say that, for many months now, the public has been at least 58/42 Remain, and the trend is only one way as people belatedly start to comprehend the abysmal reality of Brexit.

I dont believe this accurately reflects their approach at all but if it did it risks a terrible miscalculation. The anti-EU forces/far right across the EU are the ones who will take advantage of divisions, chaos and any economic hit that follows a no-deal. That lot are going to blame the EU and they are the group who most benefit from a no-deal.

No way. This is mostly May preparing remainers to accept a deal they despise because the alternative is (or risks) the unthinkable no-deal. It's also in part recognising that no-deal is a real possibility.

Hahahahahaahahah. Unreal.

My folks have removed their exposure from this farce so now I’m all for it. How’s the deal going? We getting some good sovereignty? Can’t wait for these amazing trade deals.

It still cracks me up to think of the blue passports being made in France. So perfect.

It's Brexit in a nutshell.

Delusions of detaching UK from EU only to find EU is indispensable to the future of UK.

It still cracks me up you guys think there's some clear majority that now want to stay

Echo Chambers are lovely, right? As long as they don't meet reality.

Show us some evidence that there isn't a clear majority in favour of Remain.

Enjoy your chlorinated chicken and private, under-funded, understaffed NHS.

Define clear majority?


oh, look, here's a poll taken just before the actual vote that has remain at 54/46....
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7097261.html


oh look here's a poll taken last month that has remain at 54/46
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8524431.html

People who learn nothing from history are bound to repeat its mistakes.

Try winning people over for a solid case to stay bound to the EU rather than just whining about it and acting like international chancers imo.

Seriously, the only arguments you guys every trot out is Project Fear and anyone who doesn't like the EU is a racist. People stopped listening to that **** since before the first poll... and you still haven't come up with anything.

It's your phrase, you define it.

Project Fear is looking pretty accurate these days. Or are those German car manufacturers just leaving it until very late in the day to ride to the rescue?

On a day with a headline that UK wage growth is at its highest for a decade, and unemployment remains at record lows, which bits of Project Fear to you think look accurate?

The material chance of no deal, whatever deal being floated with parliament (be that Chequers or some other deal focussed on goods) being not particularly far-reaching and likely to have material negative economic consequences, the Irish border being an issue rather than something to be dismissed, AstraZeneca suspending investment in the UK. You know, that kind of stuff.

I mean, you'd have to be Theresa May to be pretending that things are going well at this point.

Adjusted for inflation (which is relatively high due to weak GBP), UK wages have been falling or stagnant, depending on specifically which numbers you use, since referendum.

This is a circular reference - no deal is still bad because the people who think it is bad still think it is bad. No accuracy there.

The process is going terribly, it looks like we may have had to make this decision while we had a choice from the worst set of politicians we may ever see.

I still would not want to commit to an eternity of continental-level bad strategic management structure just because of some short term inconveniences. So as long as it goes, it is going relatively well.

lol

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...ure-trade-deal

Only way I can imagine a deal is if the lying tory bastards dump the bigot bastards and leave the north in the single market.

I can see the mayhem that will follow when the bigot party and the fleggers take to the streets.

Maybe this could be the exact wording of an option on the 2nd referendum . Im in

They could get a deal through assuming enough Labour MP's are daft enough to vote with May but good luck May getting a budget through without the DUP.

Fair enough, didn't think much if any labour MP's would be voting with the gov.

Bigot party have made it clear over the last few days that unless they get exactly what they want (per usual) then they'll be taking whatever action is available to them to **** may.

Chief flegger (uvf) Bryson out with the threats already.....


https://www.irishnews.com/news/2018/...cree--1460474/

Think it’s got to the point it’s inevitable there has to be another one. There’s no way that the plan put forward by Teresa May is going to work or get the outcome that was voted for.

If the proposal doesn't work it does achieve the outcome that was voted for.

Last week some Russian's voted the 'wrong way', so the ruling political elite are cancelling that 'people's vote' and then Im sure they'll have another 'people's vote' once they've made sure the people will vote to maintain the leader's grip on power and wealth.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-putins-power

But the EU are trying to make it taboo to compare the two.

Choosing between Hard Brexit and never-ending servitude to the EU is really a quite easy choice to even the most stupid sheep.

It's pretty clear the EU endgame is keeping the UK bound to it by using Ireland as the delivery gimp. They are going high stakes on this one.

I wish someone with a spine was in charge. I just hope May has one, despite appearances.