No idea how a **** like that would be traumatised by what he would perceive to be his enemies getting slaughtered.

Anti-everything that isn't them bastards.

Maybe stop having pints with the ****.

It's usually better to try to understand why people are they way they are than to condemn them and write them off altogether. There's always the hope that they'll read or hear something that will make them re-examine their views. I try to tolerate him because the others are great fun and nice.

Of course (and here's the link) he's a massively hard line Brexiter, although clueless about any of the problems with customs and WTO rules etc. I think there are quite a few like him about.

Has any other resigning MP been given time in the house for bloviating self congratulation the way Trump's bezzie Boris has? They should at least have had to preface it with "and now a party political broadcast on behalf of the Boris for PM party"

Like, we've got **** to do bro. STFU and GTFO!

All resigning ministers get the opportunity to make a resignation speech

There should be a statue of Cook

Fair enough. More fool me for underestimating how much MPs love to hear themselves speak. Still agree with Mr Lammy though.

I'm not going to expostulate with that.

R.I.P. Boris

Lying tory bastard May still more interested in being leader of her party than actually trying to lead her country.

What odds can I get on no deal? Looks nailed on certainty now.

That's evens on no brexit deal by April 2019.

Dunno if that's a good bet but betting on no deal at all at evens would be setting money on fire imo. There will very likely be a deal of some sort.

Trouble with betting on all this is the small print of what counts as a deal.

I don't think Unionists were traumatised by the Derry massacre of 1972. (I tend not to call it Bloody Sunday, as that term rightly belongs to the fighting of 21 November 1920 in Dublin, when Collins's IRA murdered a number of British officers and British and Irish police machine-gunned a football crowd at Croke Park.)

I do remember sitting at dinner at the Royal Dublin Society with the editor of the Irish Times and a bunch of other people and a Unionist professor from the North lurched over from another table and, having had a few, started going, 'Ulster will fight and Ulster will be right.' It's never far below the surface. If May thinks she can open that can of worms at will, she's an idiot.

You can go **** yourself.

14 slaughtered in Derry by your murdering bastard army, fully condoned and covered up by your politicians.

Own it you filthy ****.

To even try compare the 2 events is shameful. Collins got legitimate targets while neither the black and tans nor the paras bothered their arses with such details and went about their slaughter.

Didn't see this coming.

'Dominic Raab: Britain will refuse to pay £39 billion divorce bill to Brussels if the EU fails to agree trade deal'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-divorce-bill/


I'm seeing Raab as next Conservative Leader... All the other runners look proper ****

It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to. Not only will we flounce out, crying, but we will pay the party planners nothing because no one turned up to say goodbye to us.

We’re now playing the part of the entitled brat pretty well, which is wholly unsurprising given the party in charge.

Another analogy sees us holding to ransom a family without first taking a hostage. Yes it is that dumb.

No surprise that you'd support us welching on money that we owe others.

Also this would imply a chaotic brexit - the one where no British citizen can enter the EU without a visa, financial contracts can't be serviced, all goods coming and going are subject to massive delays etc.

I think the soldiers & RIC actually fired with rifles at the crowd, not machine guns although they did use machine guns outside the stadium & fired over the heads of the crowd as they were fleeing with machine guns but afaik it was a combo of rifle & pistols used on the crowd. The officers/intel agents' killings aren't regarded as murder in Ireland as they took place during the war of independence which ultimately led to the birth of the Irish Republic.

Michael Collins justified it with this:
Wars of independence for new Republics are a dirty business.

I didn't actually say I supported it. I think it's right both parties meet their obligations.

I doubt these guys have stopped to consider that their annual week in Benidorm may be negatively affected by all of this. Maybe that will be the wake up call.

It actually wouldn’t surprise me at all to see them crying that the EU is making them fill in a visa application and that it’s just another example of EU bureaucracy that vindicates their decision to leave.

What do you think the EU's obligations to an exiting UK are?

Isn't this 95% red meat to try keep the tory party happy for a few more months?

Where EU think UK owes money, they estimate the maximums. Where the EU owes UK Money, they estimate minimums or zero (capital investment, for example).

Where the UK has put considerable money into various programs that have not matured, they seek to deny UK access, or disallow the possibility of continued access if payments continue. If they deny access or partnership, a refund is in order.

Those kind of things.

Awesome, so not only will we renege on our commitments, we’ll also demand our money back. Fantasy land.

Dude I'm talking about fair payment. I still think the UK owe EU a lot net, but, you know, fair's fair.

I'm clearly not saying the EU owe us overall.

I'm simply replying to the question about what I think the Eu's obligations are.