Take your pick:

[ ] it is the will of the people
[ ] remainers in the establishment are talking Brexit down

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Does anyone else think jon thompson looks a bit like nick frost from spaced? Just me?

Remain should have made much more use of the image of trucks queuing at Dover and other ports.

The basic reality of being able to drive goods to France?Europe the same as you were driving goods from Devon to Cornwall with no bull**** or tax is hooooge and a simple very basic and easy thing to communicate.

It also shows up the silly notion of all these free trade deals we will do, yea they might be great, but you cant drive your goods to a developing economy in Asia in a Lorry.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...mpression=true

OMG that guy that loves the EU and owes the most lucrative parts of his career to them says bad thing about brexit. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!

I hope there's a balanced response to this somewhere. Is Gina Miller free?

Wtf are you arguing for?

If you really wanted what was best for the UK you'd stfu with your non stop nonsense.

Obv you don't gaf and want as few immigrants as possible. Can be nothing else cos we are all ****ed in the pocket already and only going to get worse no matter what **** deal they make.

EU is the best deal going, open your ****ing bigoted eyes.

Oh there'll be no trade deals made for years and none as good as what you already have.

****ing jokers the lot of you.

But Marty, the eu has taken a completely unspecified and unqualified amount of power from the UK!!!!!

Here's the only important thing about immigration - Punjabi BBQ >>> Pierogi, that's not a metaphor for the cultures, I mean literally the food.

If Tayyabs can't get chefs then I'm voting Brexit for Brick Lane, so we can have more diverse immigration.

I'll specify:

Primacy of EU Law renders parliament impotent against laws it wouldn't otherwise want
Lack of Border Control
Lack of ability to control own trade deals
Removal of veto ability for large sections of decision making - therefore literally no mechanism to stop laws and policies made elsewhere without consideration of the UK democratic process (other than leaving)

(I can't be bothered to list them all, but ECJ yaddayadda)

... so when you say 'a completely unspecified amount of power from the UK', you are spot on.

Please bang on about immigration, that never gets old and tired.

And he's very likely to be right. You hate the EU, I could use that as a basis for dismissing your arguments. I choose not to, I just dismiss them because the ones I have had the misfortune to read have been terrible.

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/999345880137437184

Here's Mr Brexit starting his dissociation with it all.

https://www.pricevaluepartners.com/euvacuate/

you have border control. that's why catching a connecting flight at heathrow is such a nightmare

and qvm made it hard to make a decision without the uk on the issues where there wasn't a veto

It's been pointed out ad nauseam, but itseems like a Pyrrhic victory to gain the ability to negotiate trade deals outside of the bloc, when you simultaneously lose access to said bloc.

Then again, trade with the bloc only accounts for ~15% of the UK's GDP, so...

As you know, I'm a self admitted idiot (but definitely not a racist ****pig) and even I can see the EU is best deal possible.

So I've absolutely no ****ing idea what these other ****s itt are reading apart from racist or xenophobic crap to hold the views they have.

What are you on about man. In 12 (no wait 15, no wait is it 17 now?) years the UK will be laughing all the way to the bank! Assuming some of them stick around for that long.

If China offered you an even bigger trade cheque and a 4% voting share on policy, would it be an easy choice to give them UK jurisdiction, because GDP plus it's still 'democratic', or are there sometimes other considerations in some big decisions?

Just sit back and think about this post a bit more, with less horrible bias and even you should have the raw kilowatts to process how dumb it is.

It's amazing how, time and time again, people against brexit fail to address the loss of democracy and power to a central authority as a concern. 'totally worth it' seems to be the response, but they never actually indicate they've considered the long term in any way whatsoever. (The exception being those that embrace and want a USE. Those people are honest and not in self-denial, so are at least have a clear point of view that you can respect).

Ha Ha, you have done it again. You realise the above is another generalisation.

Hint so maybe finally you will get this, specify = mentioning the specific laws parliament does not want.

So we have border control (immigration) and trade deals.

Trade deals is utterly moot, because its a purely a question of economic pro/con. We gain economically way more being in the EU trade block and limited in our individual ability to make trade deals then outside the EU block with the independence to make trade deals.

So even though you obviously dont want to bang on about immigration, its the only thing you specify by your own hand, which is of course the reason you dont want to bang on about it, you are just another little britian racist.

Oh there must be a brexit equivalent to Godwins Law somewhere.

It's politically ill advised for ministers to bang on about laws they don't agree with but they are forced to sign off, hence we don't hear about them.

You know they do this, right?

Um, you know ministers often leave the cabinet/junior minister ranks and say highly politically explosive things, if these laws existed in the way you suggest, then yes we would have heard of them.

Like you know, there was this referendum thing, when people were free to say nasty wasty things about Europe.

So yea, your argument that these laws must exist but I cant specify them because no minister has ever mentioned is all levels of dumb.

Diebiter, do you want to get rid of the Universal Postal Union too? Because you know, it regulates how everyone in the world must address their international mails and packages and how much everyone gets paid for international mails/packages. Even private carriers must deal with the UPU.