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Can't wait to see all the crying from the rape accuser white knights like Wookie and chazlaw after Fords refusal to testify on Monday. Democrats are too stupid to make her go on Monday without ridiculous demands and will be left complaining about how the Rs railroaded confirmation hearings. The incompetence of the left reaches a new low!

The confirmation hearings were on a railroad before Ford was thrown on the tracks, now they're trying to upgrade it to a bullet train.

09-21-2018 , 03:13 PM

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Marc Thiessen in WaPo: "How much evidence is required to destroy a person’s life?"

If an entitled white man is denied the opportunity to serve in one of 9 seats (in a country of >300 million) on the nation's highest court, his life is DESTROYED

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Ford deserves to be treated with dignity, not maligned or attacked. But let’s not forget that Kavanaugh is human too. This ordeal affects not only him but also his family, including his two young daughters, who are hearing awful things said about the father they love.

Yeah shut up libtards, if you were really feminists you'd think about Kavanaugh's daughters here!

This whole "destroy someone's life" thing is hilarious. The allegations are what they are, Kavanaugh being put on the court or not being put on the court doesn't actually change any aspect of the allegations themselves.

09-21-2018 , 03:18 PM

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Kavanaugh supporters just cannot stand seeing someone connected to a sexual assault without solid proof.

09-21-2018 , 03:29 PM

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Did Kavanaugh consider this a dirty business when he was going after Bill Clinton with guns blazing?

09-21-2018 , 03:31 PM

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The poor guy faces a life working alongside Merrick Garland in the DC Circuit for $220k/yr until he dies.

09-21-2018 , 03:47 PM

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This article has some news on Ford's negotiations with Senate Republicans to testify:

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The Senate Judiciary Committee sent their counterproposal to her attorneys on Friday afternoon, asking them to respond by 5 p.m., according to a person familiar with the negotiations. Republicans, who held a conference call late Friday morning, coalesced behind two key requests: that the hearing be held on Wednesday instead of Thursday, as Ford proposed, and that Ford must testify first, according to several GOP officials directly familiar with the call. Ford had asked that Kavanaugh speak first, a major non-starter with Republicans.

rofl

Also, Susan Collins (who is absolutely going to vote to confirm Kavanaugh) tries to walk both sides, unsuccessfully, in response to Trump's tweets:

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“I was appalled by the president’s tweet,” said Susan Collins (R-Maine). “First of all, we know that allegations of sexual assault — I’m not saying that’s what happened in this case — but we know allegations of sexual assault are one of the most unreported crimes that exist. So I thought that the president’s tweet was completely inappropriate and wrong.”

Go **** yourself, Susan

09-21-2018 , 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Almost every Asian-American I've known is conservative-leaning. I'm guessing it has something to do with being self-reliant in a new country and happy to be out from under some of the shackles of their home culture - whether Chinese political repression, or other cultural mores and suppression. I dunno.

Same with Russian-Americans and Cuban-Americans... not hard to figure out why.

09-21-2018 , 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Although the chances she is lying is tiny, the chances that she would have refrained from coming forward if the nominee was someone she was happy with isn't. Politics, unlike the hard sciences and math is all about using or not using arguments that will achieve your goal because achieving those goals depends on persuading people who can't think. As more and more people fall into that category and more and more bad people are elected because of their persuasive abilities rather than their governing abilities, there will eventually be a push to ferret out those non thinkers via some device similar to what we do to make sure that those who drive cars at least read a driver's manual. Then you will all owe me an apology.

Gross

09-21-2018 , 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Although the chances she is lying is tiny, the chances that she would have refrained from coming forward if the nominee was someone she was happy with isn't.

Like others said, finish the thought. Is this supposed to be some gross injustice in accuser asymmetry? Also, whatever your number is, it's reduced by the probability that the person wishes to remain silent but is forced to cooperate by the opposing party.

09-21-2018 , 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man

Where are all of those reasonable thinkin' man's Beltway conservatives on this? Turns out they're dishing up "game theory" solutions over at The Weekly Standard. ****ing spoiler alert, but the optimal play for all parties is to rubber stamp a MORE CONSERVATIVE justice than Kavanaugh. QED

<Bill Kristol sipping single malt in a burgundy leather lounger and gently nodding as he thumbs through his signed copy of DUCY?.gif>

He fails to note that a more conservative nominee is as or more likely to have committed sexual assault at some point in his career.

09-21-2018 , 04:29 PM

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Gross

I only caught this line in david's post
"then you will all owe me an apology"

SKLANSKY IS THE REAL VICTIM HERE GUYS.

09-21-2018 , 04:31 PM

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Did Kavanaugh consider this a dirty business when he was going after Bill Clinton with guns blazing?

He most certainly did not. I posted a list of questions he wanted asked of Clinton upthread if you're interested, it's a memo he wrote to Ken Starr if you'd rather google.

09-21-2018 , 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Although the chances she is lying is tiny, the chances that she would have refrained from coming forward if the nominee was someone she was happy with isn't.

rape ain't rape if someone in your party does the rapin'

09-21-2018 , 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by .Alex.

Same with Russian-Americans and Cuban-Americans... not hard to figure out why.

Not sure about Russians (but I think I know) but Cubans leaning GOP goes back to the Cuban revolution. Many of them blamed Kennedy and later LBJ for not sending in troops to crush Castro (especially the Bay of Pigs fiasco) and idk turn the country back over to the hyper-corrupt military dictator who ran it before? Not merking Castro = "soft on Communism." Obama re-establishing diplo ties with Cuba rustled them mightily, especially the old timers. Anyway that's what the ones I spoke to about it when I lived in Miami had to say. The younger generations just follow in their parents' political footsteps maybe

09-21-2018 , 04:41 PM

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This is good (a firsthand account of Whelan)

09-21-2018 , 04:46 PM

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Susan Collins is a straight up deplorable piece of **** and I don’t even pay attention to whatever bull**** shes spewing, wake me up when she votes no on anything.

09-21-2018 , 05:32 PM

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lol, that Slate article links to Erick Erickson posting about this today!!!!!

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While I am still not convinced there was an assault on Professor Ford, an intriguing theory has come forward that embraces the idea she was assaulted and makes a far more plausible case than that Brett Kavanaugh did it.

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I continue to believe Ford's accusation is not credible. If you find it credible, Whelan's evidence is compelling unless you're just trying to stop Kavanaugh for partisan or ideological reasons. You will also note the Democrats have spent an inordinate amount of time trying to debunk the look-alike theory over the past 48 hours largely because they know just how credible Ed Whelan's chain of tweets is.

"Yeah this bat**** crazy Twitter thread with Zillow floor plans is way more plausible than the idea that Ford is correct, unless you're a partisan hack, not like me, I'm the rational one"

And again, it cannot be emphasized enough: Erick son of Erick published this today!

09-21-2018 , 05:34 PM

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If you haven't read through some of the stories in the whyididntreport hashtag, I implore you to do so. Then retweet them to Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.

Over

And over

And over.

09-21-2018 , 05:38 PM

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It turns out that the Keystone Cops detective work by conservative legal activist Ed Whelan — which set Washington abuzz with the promise of exonerating Brett Kavanaugh, only to be met by mockery and then partially retracted — was not his handiwork alone.

CRC Public Relations, the prominent Alexandria, Virginia-based P.R. firm, guided Whelan through his roller-coaster week of Twitter pronouncements that ended in embarrassment and a potential setback for Kavanaugh’s hopes of landing on the high court, according to three sources familiar with their dealings.

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Best known for its work with the Swift Boat Veterans in 2004, CRC bills itself as a full-service communications firm “specializing in media relations, social media and issues management,” according to its website. It has long been the go-to communications firm for conservative organizations in Washington and across the country. Its current clients include the Federalist Society and the Judicial Crisis Network, the chief outside groups working to help confirm Kavanaugh.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...pr-firm-836405

09-21-2018 , 05:46 PM

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This is good (a firsthand account of Whelan)

I saw some Conservative post talking about how the bar to entry is so high for the Federalist Society that they don't have cranks or frauds in it, and I think it's a bit true, in that they don't have ambulance chasers or the dregs of the legal society in there, but

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During the Obama years, Whelan failed more often than he succeeded. He couldn’t keep Sonia Sotomayor or Elena Kagan off of the Supreme Court, though he did leak a mean letter that Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe wrote to Obama critiquing Sotomayor. Oddly, he also disparaged Kagan for … not learning to drive until her late 20s. He also attempted (and failed) to force Judge Vaughn Walker to recuse himself from the litigation over Proposition 8 because he is gay and went on to claim that Walker used the case to “feather his nest” with “prospective San Francisco employers.” These examples neatly illustrate the Whelan style: petty, bad-faith, ad hominem attacks to serve all-out ideological warfare.

It'd be hard to find a difference between this and a James O' Keefe style takedown. So yea they don't have pure grifters in there but they have dead-eye psychopaths who do not operate under any idea of a moral compass.

09-21-2018 , 05:47 PM

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Grunching since before 9:00am:

OF COURSE Sklansky reads Natural News. OF COURSE. My prediction for the next Sklansky thread: Has Big Pharma been killing off homeopaths?

09-21-2018 , 06:28 PM

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This thread is worth reading and pretty strongly implies that Kavanaugh was personally involved in the Whelan "smear a rando" strategy.

09-21-2018 , 06:44 PM

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This is a good question that was linked in that thread:

Everyone involved denies being at any kind of party like the one Ford describes, yet the Senate Judiciary Twitter account is tweeting about having talked to everyone at Schrodinger's Party

09-21-2018 , 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chijim

trust me, you are using WAY too much logic for this thread. also trust me, in a page or 2, you WILL be called a rapist.
but i still salute your efforts, it's all we can do.

we both know why you came up in here posting like you did and it's not because you've not raped people

09-21-2018 , 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

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Mother****er talking "2 year temper tantrum" boy your kind elected a senile ****ing conman from the TeeVee because you were so mad that a black got to be President.

these jokers voted for a big wet daddy to tuck them in because it was naptime and they were cranky

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