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Originally Posted by dth123451
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W was a world class POS president and he was in office 11 years ago! Tanked the economy worse than anyone thought possible plus 500k dead people for literally no reason other than money for his friends.
We’ve had unabated garbage since 1980, with the exception of one “ok” run from 08-16
Well I was just referring to royally ****ing up and electing a new guy to totally **** the country, so 2000 to 2016, hence 16-20 years. I don't know if it's fair to call Clinton unabated garbage as president (as opposed to as a person), but I was only six when he was elected and 10 when he was re-elected, so it's hard for me to really say in the context of the time.
Originally I was thinking Nixon -> Reagan -> W -> Trump, but you could argue to add HW or remove W depending on how you classify it. Like if we're focusing on just completely ****ing us on judges and policy and racism, you might drop W, who gave us Roberts and Alito who are way better than anybody Trump, Reagan or Nixon would have appointed. While W may not be a bastion of racial equality, he's also way better than Trump/Reagan/Nixon on that front, and probably better than your average or median Congressional Republican on topics of race in 2019.
If we're focusing on foreign policy and the world at large, or total number of innocents killed by actions taken as president, you are then debating Trump (climate change over the long run) vs. W (wars) as the worst.