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09-06-2018 , 09:41 AM
Really comforting to know the fossilized remains of Chuck Grassley are literally writing the laws of our country

09-06-2018 , 09:50 AM
racial-spoils
Noun

A term used by opponents of reverse discrimination (oh, hi white supremacists) to describe systems that give preference to minorities in source selection for government contracts.


If you've watched the hearing, you get the picture that Kavanaugh could tell you what the 7th word was on a note he passed in 3rd grade. But he suddenly couldn't seem to remember what he meant when he used a racially loaded term in an op-ed a few years ago.


https://twitter.com/NAACP_LDF/status...16060201807873
09-06-2018 , 09:53 AM
booker releasing "committee confidential" emails to public

dares republicans to kick him out of senate
09-06-2018 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol

def drawing live to kavanaugh removal if dems win midterms
I agree and it gives me the WAAFs for real. Our government is going to be a complete and total ****show for the rest of my life. I'm not saying we just accept people like Kavanaugh, of course we can't. It's just that things will never be "normal" again. I guess in the long run that's probably a good thing.
09-06-2018 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by econophile
booker releasing "committee confidential" emails to public

dares republicans to kick him out of senate
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As a White House lawyer in the Bush administration, Judge Brett Kavanaugh challenged the accuracy of deeming the Supreme Court’s landmark Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision to be “settled law of the land,” according to a secret email obtained by The New York Times.

The email, written in March 2003, is one of thousands of documents that a lawyer for President George W. Bush turned over to the Senate Judiciary Committee about the Supreme Court nominee but deemed “committee confidential,” meaning it could not be made public or discussed by Democrats in questioning him in hearings this week. It was among several an unknown person provided to The New York Times late Wednesday.

Judge Kavanaugh was considering a draft opinion piece that supporters of one of Mr. Bush’s conservative appeals court nominees hoped they could persuade anti-abortion women to submit under their names. It stated that “it is widely accepted by legal scholars across the board that Roe v. Wade and its progeny are the settled law of the land.”

Judge Kavanaugh proposed deleting that line, writing: “I am not sure that all legal scholars refer to Roe as the settled law of the land at the Supreme Court level since Court can always overrule its precedent, and three current Justices on the Court would do so.”
Yep, Roe is gone. Isn't that a bit circular? We have three Supreme Court justices that would currently overturn it, never mind the last 60 years of decisions, so it's not settled? You get 5 justices who think they can say anything they want and then anything becomes "unsettled".

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/06/u...documents.html

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 09-06-2018 at 10:21 AM.
09-06-2018 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
OK, I guess that as far as transparently bad faith political grandstanding goes it was perfectly cromulent bad faith political grandstanding. But folks ITT seem to be falling for it, talking about HOW UNCOMFORTABLE Kavanaugh looked and whatnot. Obviously lying and evasive! When he reacted exactly how any SC nominee would and should act if he had no idea wtf Harris was talking about. Which I suppose means Harris' grandstanding worked? Good job I guess.
Well to be honest, Kavanaugh should have just been like "yeah I did it, what now?"

What was the worse that could happen? Was he going to recuse himself from some future Trump Mueller thing that ends up in front of SCOTUS? lolno. Was the GOP not going to approve him? lolno.

Seems like you defeat Harris's grandstanding by simply admitting you talk to Trump's lawyer about his potential criminality. There would zero actual consequences. Kavanaugh's mistake is the exact mistake Democrats make when talking to right wing trolls deploying bad faith arguments: he's assuming there's some unwritten set of rules and some unbiased audience who gives a **** about any of this and is trying to cover his tracks. There's not going to be any accountability here, Kavanaugh could literally high-five Trump while Putin bodyslams Merrick Garland in the Rose Garden and be like "yep we did it!!!," do the DX "Suck It" gesture to the assembled media then walk arm in arm into the White House to plan how Kavanaugh will vote on important issues in front of the court and nothing would happen. Why is he bothering to evade this ****? Just be like yeah whatever I talked with em, Trump's lawyers and I talk all the time about the Deep State conspiracy against him and the Fake News out to get him. Harris doesn't have a meaningful follow up of any consequence.
09-06-2018 , 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by econophile
booker releasing "committee confidential" emails to public

dares republicans to kick him out of senate
09-06-2018 , 10:16 AM
lol "committee confidential" this is a LIFETIME APPOINTMENT to the highest court in the land!

Go **** your actual selves with that goddamned nonsense. Makes my ****ing blood boil.
09-06-2018 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Well to be honest, Kavanaugh should have just been like "yeah I did it, what now?"

What was the worse that could happen? Was he going to recuse himself from some future Trump Mueller thing that ends up in front of SCOTUS? lolno. Was the GOP not going to approve him? lolno.

Seems like you defeat Harris's grandstanding by simply admitting you talk to Trump's lawyer about his potential criminality. There would zero actual consequences. Kavanaugh's mistake is the exact mistake Democrats make when talking to right wing trolls deploying bad faith arguments: he's assuming there's some unwritten set of rules and some unbiased audience who gives a **** about any of this and is trying to cover his tracks. There's not going to be any accountability here, Kavanaugh could literally high-five Trump while Putin bodyslams Merrick Garland in the Rose Garden and be like "yep we did it!!!," do the DX "Suck It" gesture to the assembled media then walk arm in arm into the White House to plan how Kavanaugh will vote on important issues in front of the court and nothing would happen. Why is he bothering to evade this ****? Just be like yeah whatever I talked with em, Trump's lawyers and I talk all the time about the Deep State conspiracy against him and the Fake News out to get him. Harris doesn't have a meaningful follow up of any consequence.
If he did have the conversation, then sure. If he didn't then what he did was perfectly reasonable.
09-06-2018 , 10:28 AM
Bring it

09-06-2018 , 10:30 AM
bring it
09-06-2018 , 10:45 AM
Cliffs on "Bring it" for those who can't watch?
09-06-2018 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Cliffs on "Bring it" for those who can't watch?
Cornyn threatening Booker with expulsion from the Senate. Booker say bring it.

09-06-2018 , 10:51 AM
cornyn accused booker of conduct unbecoming a senator, booker got mad and said there's a process where you can bring charges and kick me out, and that he welcomes the opportunity to defend himself. cornyn went on reading some bull**** and booker cut him off at the end with "bring it", and repeated himself a few times
09-06-2018 , 10:57 AM
I thought it was ironic that Booker's gotcha moment centered on an email that racial profiling after 911 "might" be constitutional when he is part of the legislative body that passed the unconstitutional on its face Patriot Act, many without even reading it. (To be fair, Booker was not in Congress when it first passed and i did not look up his voting record on the extensions.)

Harris did a good job on the Mueller questioning. How can't he remember if he spoke with Trump's lawyers? He was lying his ass off!
09-06-2018 , 11:02 AM
Pretty nice of the GOP to turn these hearings into Democratic Presidential campaign ads. Harris is dunking on Kavanaugh, Booker is literally up there calling himself Spartacus.
09-06-2018 , 11:05 AM
Booker released the documents
09-06-2018 , 11:07 AM
"Not so far," Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, a North Dakota Democrat, told CNN Wednesday afternoon when asked if anything she's heard so far would be considered disqualifying.
09-06-2018 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by prana
"Not so far," Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, a North Dakota Democrat, told CNN Wednesday afternoon when asked if anything she's heard so far would be considered disqualifying.
She has to say this. If they get a republican defector to actually block Kavanaugh (they won't) then all these red state Democrat senators will come along. Otherwise they just hurt their re-election chances for nothing.
09-06-2018 , 11:22 AM
These repube senators didn't have ONE ****ING WORD to say when their ****stain dumb**** "presidential" candidate was trafficking in stolen Clinton weakyleaks not two years ago, and now the hearing room is ankle-deep with their pearls. KAVANAW'S E-MAILS COMMITTEE CONFIDENTIAL WELL I NEVER! **** literally every single one of these turtles.
09-06-2018 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
If he did have the conversation, then sure. If he didn't then what he did was perfectly reasonable.
Wait, wat. If he didn't, why didn't he just say 'no'?

I assumed we were operating with the shared assumption Kavanaugh absolutely talked to Trump's lawyers about the case. If he didn't, just like be like "nah Kamala, sorry sweetie, I am upstanding carpool dad judge and I would never."

Isn't the only reason Kavanaugh would be so evasive and squirrely is because he at least might have done the thing he was accused of?
09-06-2018 , 11:29 AM
@DVaut1

09-06-2018 , 11:35 AM
09-06-2018 , 11:36 AM
Because none of us here remembers everyone he/she talked to.

Equally few (zero) knows where everyone he/she talked to works at.
09-06-2018 , 11:39 AM
BS

      
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