@61x nazism was certainly rightwing in several aspect. Economic policy though wasn't one of them.

Hyper-nationalism, a kind of "paternal authoritarianism", the specific focus on hatred minorities, militarism, pride/superiority as a defining character of society are all rightwing (even if they exist to some extent in many leftist regimes).

My claim isn't that nazism is a leftwing ideology tout court. My claim is that its economic policies are leftwing (extreme left).

If you dislike the label can we at least agree that nazism was far more statalist than liberal capitalism?

Luciom's hijack here is horrible. I am not in a position to excise it, but I can ban people who keep it going from here on out.

So that Kavenaugh guy is kind of an *******.

I tuned out of this thread, so excuse me if this video was posted
I guess this is the post confirmation and the lady is his wife

https://twitter.com/_SJPeace_/status...45114638098432

Yeah "literally ready to lynch him" is so very fitting for this thread about...Brett Kavanaugh?

Inso0 dropping the brilliant takes as always. Isn't his shtick generally about the left hyperventilating, while here he is comparing Kavanaugh potentially not serving on the Supreme Court (teh horrors!!11) to lynching? lmao

And the implication here, from resident terrified white dude Inso0: "planned protest" by black people = OMG FEARS OF VIOLENCE

LOL

You are such a piece of **** racist, oops hope I didn't just radicalize you more by using the r-word, oh well too late

Given that the guy doing it to begin with has already gotten warnings and time off for exceptionally bad posting, you could, uh, ban that guy?

Personal responsibility and all.

None of Kavanaugh, his wife, or an ENORMOUS percentage of people who watch that video would/will see anything here at all.

Powerful white women are complicit. Make no mistake about it. Even 53% of white women voted for Trump I think and most of those are not powerful or wealthy. Kavanaugh's wife famously brought out sweets for the reporters and paparazzi covering the event on his front lawn in an effort to build up good will for Kavanaugh, specifically during the Dr. Ford sexual assault controversy.

I have zero sympathy for her.

But everyone saw the same thing?
I had the sound off and my first reaction was he beats the **** out of her.

hahaha oh wow even for inso, jumping from "uppity negroes are organizing a protest" to "VIOLENCE, QED" is a doozy

First, someone who mentions the r-word, or any other word for that matter, isn't "shutting down discourse". When discourse is "shut down" in these kinda situation, that's always 100% because somebody else is the one shutting down discourse as a reaction to hearing that word.

Example:

A: Who's that lady over there?
B: You mean that c***?
A: I'm not going to talk to you if you use that kinda language!

Second, shock can be just as effective as coddling.

For example, let's say we're talking about a bilateral face to face chat, dude A comes in saying "I don't see anything wrong with ALEC style voter id laws", and dude B wanted, for whatever reason, to jawbone A into changing his mind.

Well, B has lots of options. One is to say: "Dude, those laws are r-word". Some non-zero percentage X of A's in the real world are going to respond "Tell me more", and will eventually change his mind. And sure, some non-zero percentage Y of A's will get so bitter having to had heard the r-word that they'll shut down the discourse (and won't change their minds).

It's flat out idiotic to assume X is always zero, and Y is always 100%, for all possible dude A's.

OK, now let's consider the case of an interwebs forum... where there are several A's and several B's all chatting as a group. If our B's are each 10% likely to say "those laws are r-word", what's our odds that no B will do so? Well... one B it's 90%, two B's it's 81%, and at 20+ B's it getting to be a lock.

What this means is that all A's are going to hear "Those laws are r-word", and also all A's are also going to hear whatever the equivalent coddling response might be etc/etc/etc. Therefore... any successful tactic to change some of the A's minds in this kinda venue simply can't depend on all the A's being coddled all the time.

Got it?

dude. not only is it super obvious from that video that he abuses his wife, but look at his daughter. she's scared of him and she looks up at her mother several times for re-assurance. mom puts on the fake smile and looks imploringly at her daughter to follow suit, which daughter promptly does. but neither of them can hold up the act very long.

Right, but like, what you seem to be completely oblivious to is just how many high-and-tight Proud Boys have wandered these halls before you making identical claims. And just like the others, your ideology will be shown to be both derivative and puerile. In fact,

that check is already in the ****ing mail.

Literally the woman protesting(the only protestor quoted!) disagreed with the decision to cancel the play!

And yeah, you're ****ing petrified. That's why you shared that story, remember? You provided it as an example, and I'm not making this up, of how Black Lives Matter is violent.

Yes, but she did complain about the N word, and this is why we can't have nice things, or let our students put on plays.

LOL if you think you are going to drop some unique libertarian arguments in this thread. We've heard them all.

As an aside, does libertarianism attract people with delusions of intellectualism, or does it promote those delusions? Both, I guess.

It's because libertarianism is the simplest of all possible political philosophies, so one can become an expert in no time flat. Therefore, because you understood it so quickly, you are a genius.

Lol some excellent armchair psychologizing itt.

Inso getting rekt itt. Keep in mind he is like two standard deviations smarter than your average deplorable racist moron!

This was your previous post itt. I rest my case.

I kinda agree that the "body language" analysis of Ms. Kav is baloney (as are like 99% of these sorts of tweets).

Nah. That's the literal best moment of her husband's life. Those facial expressions and body language are extremely abnormal and basically impossible for someone in a functional relationship.

Kavanaugh seems very handsy in that video, I guess.

Agreed. TTHRIC. Subject to Wookie, feel free to unlock if you disagree.

Regards,

-jman220

Edit: I have been convinced otherwise. That said, posts in this thread should just be about Kavanaugh and not general debate about things having nothing to do with Kavanaugh.

Regards,

—jman220

Edit: All recent posts having nothing to do with Kavanaugh have been moved to the “A thread for arguing with trolls about things having nothing to do with Brett Kavanaugh” thread.

It's my anniversary this weekend, and I don't want to be around, but I got a bunch notifications and have some down time, so here I am. I think Kavanaugh will continue to be a relevant subject, but this thread has been bad for a while. I think it should be reopened, but after I come back, so that the hijacks can find other places, and then this can be bumped when relevant.