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Which is doubly hilarious because obviously all the other heritage chuds would have protected trump but they were just smart enough not to spell it out.

09-26-2018 , 08:18 AM

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grizy

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Originally Posted by jman220

I don’t know this lady but the GOP May have ****ed up here. As a former prosecutor I’ll be the first to admit that prosecutors, generally, are not quite as good at cross-examination as defense attorneys are. That’s just because we do it less, the defense doesn’t often put on a defense so we are generally just examining our own witnesses. If they really wanted someone to tear ford apart then they should have hired a “former” prosecutor who is now a defense attorney. Take this with a heap of salt though that this woman could be the exception and be a phenomenal cross examiner.

It makes a lot more sense if they believe ford is telling the truth and no good can come of a credible cross examination so they found the worst female sex crime prosecutor they could.

This lady tested 2000 rape kits and got 1 conviction. Make sense yet?

09-26-2018 , 08:25 AM

#2703

Wotton

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Writers are giving us the calendars today.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...20829514010624

I think the film weekend at Bernie's might be loosely based on his life

09-26-2018 , 08:56 AM

#2704

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Originally Posted by Wotton

Writers are giving us the calendars today.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...20829514010624

I think the film weekend at Bernie's might be loosely based on his life

1. Assuming everything is true, what kind of high schooler keeps a detailed calendar like this? Really bizarre.

2. He's constantly hanging out with women, seemingly one on one. So nothing ever happened? Is he gay or just forever friend-zoned?

3. There are a lot of party/party-like events on there, regardless.

09-26-2018 , 09:02 AM

#2705

master3004

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Originally Posted by Simulated

Clinton WAS LIKELY A RAPIST.....yet he was a competent president. That shows us that putting a likely sexual predator into high office isn't a necessarily catastrophic error. Still, nobody wants a sexual predator in high office. So the argument goes that it is better to reject the Kavanaugh just in case he is a sexual predator.

This a bad argument because in rejecting Kavanaugh for the purpose of avoiding one error, you could be making an even worse error. Now I came into this thread arguing there is a "by any means necessary", "do what ever it takes", "no Trump", "At all cost" movement in the left which could be purposely smearing Kavanaugh. Given the scant evidence to back the accusations against Kavanaugh it is a real possibility these accusers are outright lying, or are simply being used as tools of left winged whack jobs. The accusations are so nebulous, and uncorroborated that to reject Kavanaugh based on them means that any nominee should be rejected whenever a dubious uncorroborated accusation is levied against them. Just in case it might be true.

I'd rather take the risk that a sexual predator might get into high office than destroy the whole nomination process. One error is worse than the other and we cannot minimize both. Its like food production. You know your not going to produce the exactly right amount of food so it it better to error on the side of producing too much and have some waste rather than too little and have people die of starvation.

I firmly believe that most of you reading this understand it and want Kavanaugh rejected because of his ideology. You're just using these unfounded accusation as an excuse.

The nomination process IS destroyed. Ole turtle head Mitch saw to that when he refused to hold a vote for a nomination for ten months. GFY.

The rules are not the rules anymore. Mitch and the republicans have saw to that. That is why there is no shame in the "obstruct everything" mantra. The rules are gone. It's time to play dirty.

09-26-2018 , 09:06 AM

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would be great if Dr. Ford says in the moment that she will only take direct questions from the senators and not from this dragon lady.

09-26-2018 , 09:07 AM

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09-26-2018 , 09:08 AM

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Not wanting a rapist to be on the SCOTUS means you are now a left wing whack job? Hey simulated, get ****ed.

09-26-2018 , 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ligastar

would be great if Dr. Ford says in the moment that she will only take direct questions from the senators and not from this dragon lady.

this is exactly what I am hoping happens. there's no downside to this plan.

09-26-2018 , 09:14 AM

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Was that Cohen tweet meant to be serious? Before I noticed who the tweet was from I assumed that it was a joke about how showing a picture of his passport was as useless a piece of evidence as Kavanaugh's calendar is.

Edit: Whoops, I just noticed the date of the tweet.

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09-26-2018 , 09:16 AM

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Yea that was back when he was still a part of Trump's inner circle. Times have changed for little Mikey!

09-26-2018 , 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Simulated

I'd rather take the risk that a sexual predator might get into high office than destroy the whole nomination process.

09-26-2018 , 09:27 AM

#2713

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Originally Posted by champstark

On your first point, it was in 1982, there was no computers, no phones so you can't DM/text people to remind them to go somewhere. I still have handwritten notes from high school classes from 10 years ago. The written word for some people (including me) has sentimental value + he was/ still i s a type A personality: he likes to plan and plan and then keep stuff.

On your other points I agree and I think those calendars hurt his defence more than they help him given the strategy he's chosen.

09-26-2018 , 09:27 AM

#2714

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Originally Posted by jjjou812

Marksman,

Do you have any evidence that there is "the rape impulse surging inside simulated" or that "he is seeing his lifestyle and desires finally being brushed out the door"?

Someone has never heard of context clues

09-26-2018 , 09:30 AM

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It’s not like they had a lot of options. Ghoulish, incompetent Joe Arpaio lackeys are the only kind of women you’ll find that will be willing to do this job.

09-26-2018 , 09:33 AM

#2716

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So is Avenatti going to release some info today? Going to be pretty pissed if he was just grandstanding and disctracted from the other accusations.

09-26-2018 , 09:43 AM

#2717

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Sorry if this was already posted.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ms/1429270002/

Bunch of sworn statements by friends and neighbours of Ford that they knew about the assualt previously.

09-26-2018 , 09:44 AM

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What procedure is stopping the Dems from issuing a subpoena to Judge to force him to anawer questions under oath? I know the Senate can compel witnesses to testify but do they have to be issued only by the Majority leader?

It's not clear to me that forcing Judge to testify would accomplish anything. He isn't going to start telling the truth just because he is under oath.

09-26-2018 , 09:47 AM

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So is Avenatti going to release some info today? Going to be pretty pissed if he was just grandstanding and disctracted from the other accusations.

Who knows. I obviously don't believe he was duped by 4chan idiots. That said, I don't trust Avenatti at all. His need for attention is second only the orange man-baby himself. I feel almost certain that he is going to blow his own foot off at some point.

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09-26-2018 , 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

It’s not like they had a lot of options. Ghoulish, incompetent Joe Arpaio lackeys are the only kind of women you’ll find that will be willing to do this job.

Definitely this. I don't know a single female lawyer who would be willing to take on this job.

09-26-2018 , 10:11 AM

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It's not clear to me that forcing Judge to testify would accomplish anything. He isn't going to start telling the truth just because he is under oath.

I disagree. He may be a trailer park boy but he probably still prefers that to federal prison. Judge getting up there and pleading the fif 25+ times would have a major impact on voters (if not the GOP fossils on the judiciary committee).

09-26-2018 , 10:26 AM

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Judge is a loser who is still trying to put his life together. He’s not in a position to fight or lie. He probably can’t even afford the lawyer he’s got now.

Also, he has financial incentives to tell the truth. It should be enough to get him another book deal.

Republicans will never let him testify.