Without even addressing all of the inherent sexist, etc. issues here, just speaking factually--you know she: 1) passed a lie detector test and 2) brought this up to her therapist years ago. To equate this as a mere "single allegation of wrongdoing" is stupid and wrong.

You, Wotton, must be a rapist and a disgusting person because you wrote this post. That's a single allegation of wrongdoing.

Haberman is reminding me more and more of Zoe Barnes.

I am trying to figure out who the Frank Underwood of the story is but everyone is so incompetent I can't make anyone fit.

In that you want to push her onto some subway tracks?

Allegations Against Brett Kavanaugh ‘Will Be Heard,’ Kellyanne Conway Says

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/f...bout-kavanaugh

Prep school elite: should be forgiven for a little light rape, boys will be boys

Trayvon Martin: wore a hoodie

17 year olds who want abortions: **** you

Central Park 5: fry em

GOP

Bad means/processes always corrupt good ends. I don't care if other people are awful morally.

This is "but they started it" reasoning.

I really don’t need the mental image of Trump schtupping Haberman, tyvm.

No its "they are bombing our houses to dust and nothing we do will stop them so lets not get squeamish about lobbing a few bombs back at them especially when it might mean the difference between a rapist being on the supreme court or not" reasoning.

You should care about other people because they are destroying us in part because "we" are playing by a set of rules that make no sense and that our enemies would never follow in a billion years.

You can be England if you want and deride the crass crossbow in favour of the more refined skillful longbow but you're gonna lose us the 100 years war (dvaut historical analogy shoutout). I wanna win the war even if it means a loss of decorum.

Of course not.

I want someone else to do it.

But one needs to think about the implication...

lol no

I don't think Haberman is in Trump's league. I was thinking more along the lines of one of Trump's spawns/lackeys.

Who's been connected to Trump White House for the whole time? Just look at list of Trump cabinet members that's been around since 2016 and those are pretty good suspects.

Feel free to look at high ranking GOP members in Congress too.

You're very welcome. Happy nightmares.

I know that this discussion is going anywhere but just a last thing: the essence of liberal democracies is that the set of rules that you talk about are essential to the existence of the liberal democracies themselves. If you do not obey them you are not in the same regime anymore.

Now I understand that I am alone in that thread and very isolated in society in that belief so don't mind the broader point that I was making when answering DVaut who I think was misrepresenting what the quoted WH lawyer was saying.

Turning this into a he said she said hearing is totally pointless. Nobody’s vote will change based on that. Thomas and Hill was a different world than today. Forensics weren’t considered important and a he said she said issue could cause people to swing their opinion. That’s not happening in 2018. This guy just needs to withdraw whether he did this or mot

How is sticking to the rules working out for liberal democracies would you say? In the few places where they haven't failed (yet) the very worst people in society are pretty much in charge of everything. Thanks rules!

Definitely a new take. Gg my man.

Feinstein may have kept the letter because she wanted to give the woman the option to remain anonymous. At worst, she could just claim that was her consideration.

This is not a line of questioning you want to go on if the goal is to attack Ford or Feinstein's credibility.

NRA Spokeswoman Dana Loesch said there wouldn't be an attempted rape if Christine Ford were armed

"Drunk high school parties are the last frontier of gun free zones and coincidentally where many rapes and assaults happen. That should end. Every woman should be armed at all times to protect themselves from potential and current Supreme Court Justices."

Putin's rentboy just asking questions

Kavanaugh denies it completely, unsurprisingly.

Usually if someone's done something like this once, they've done it multiple times, so I suspect we will hear from another woman soon.

I want to live in this fantasy world where women’s guns are used far less often against them as by them.

Could this be 4d chess by Feinstein? - if she had revealed two months ago, it could have been swept away sooner. Basically, they stalled as much as they could with the first hearings and now have a round 2 of stalling.

I'm hesitant to give to much credit to her, but if you (correctly) assume that Republicans won't care about this and will try to jam him through regardless, then the extra-late stall tactic could have been a better play. Idk, grasping at straws here.

Very possible. Let’s keep in mind too he wasn’t married until 2004 so there’s a long stretch where he was single after this incident so it’s highly unlikely he didn’t do this to someone else if this initial claim is true

Why are we even discussing whether or not it is true?

What is more likely:

1. A teenager who is a piece of **** person who thinks of women as objects tried to rape a woman because he was horny and he thinks he ****ing deserves to have what he wants in life.

2. A successful, professional woman decides to randomly make up an accusation, knowing the scrutiny/pain/death threats/etc. that comes with it and is able to fake out a lie detector test in order to (most likely) only delay a Republican appointee to the SCOTUS.

You decide.