Reminds me of shortly after the tsunami in south east Asia, when there were pics floating around the Internet of fat Europeans lazing on the beaches in their Speedos while dead people were being put in body bags a few feet away.

He didn't offer any solutions. Whining about Muslims isn't an "excellent post."

You know what makes people less religious? More money and more education. How about we start moving in that direction instead of bombing them to the stone age every time they kill another 1000 people?

I agree that slowing Muslim immigration into places where there is a lot of homegrown terrorism, like France, is a legitimate discussion.

But other than that - do you have any solutions other than talking tougher, and what do you think that will accomplish?

I sympathize with you but I can't think of any way to put the genie back in the bottle that doesn't involve mass human suffering, can you?

Offer a compelling solution. Talk out against it. What are young Muslims to think when ISIS is telling them the TRUTH, and Western intellectuals, leaders and journalists are dithering and apologizing and saying Islam is just fine and that the West is to blame? People without direction look for strength and self belief, and the Western/the Left offers the exact opposite of strength and self belief.

In the mosques, they're told that gays and Jews are terrible and should be killed, etc, and we offer no compelling alternative. We don't even denounce it as "hate speech" and censure the Imams. Instead, they're invited to meet Obama and other Western leaders, while right wingers who are FAR less bigoted and dangerous and violent are (rightly) shunned. We bend over backwards to apologize for Islam.

Speaking out works. Marginalizing the bigots and misogynists (which is most of Islam if you look at global surverys) works. Look at how the far right has been successfully marginalized by constant hate speech against it (totally deserved). You could marginalize Islam too.

You simply don't bring them into your country. The end.

I guess we don't count all the Muslims fighting ISIS right now? But OK, I guess your proposed way to do convince moderate Muslims to "excise" their worst elements is to not so subtly imply that all Muslims are enemies of the West?

The horribad gun-control stuff should be confined to a confinement thread. It doesn't need to spill over to everything within 5 posts.

Containment threads ftw

You simply don't bring them into your country. The end.[/QUOTE]

They are in your country.

They are in my country

They are in every country.

Now what?

No.

This post is completely demented, and you don't speak for anyone. Get some help.

Yo Toothsayer:

I disagree totally.

Did this conversation just stop, or what? Can we keep going or will that be left-wing cultural relativism silencing you or something?

Just want to make sure we reach some consensus here that this conversation is actually happening, in fact it happens ALL THE TIME, all over the internet, all over TV, all of Fox News, all over Facebook newsfeeds: there's Team Muslims are barbarians, and then Team lolno. This conversation is happening, I promise, even if you don't like the fact people don't share your point of view, the conversation hasn't floated into the ether and you haven't been silenced.

And what about the billion or so Muslims who don't slaughter people in the same way Christians don't smite their neighbor working on the Sabbath?

All religions are ****ing stupid imo. One religion currently is being taken more literally, and might be more violent at it's core to begin with. That is a bad situation. But I'm only interested in solutions that don't end in the genocide or conversion of every Muslim on earth - which seems to be the end game of constantly harping on Islam and the Koran as the core of the problem.

Okay friend, I guess I must have hallucinated all that talk from Trump and Cruz rallies about bombing the **** out of ISIS, carpet bombing and making the sand glow, about murdering the families of terrorists, all of which got raucous cheers? I accept your retraction, no hard feelings.

Some of my friends were there; it's a carnage. I usually either watch 14th of july fireworks in Paris or Nice; this year was Paris...

on another dark/bitter note; chief of DGSE (french intelligence) predicted in an very recent interview that this would be the new modus operandi for attacks. Sickening

The most emotional guy in the room right now is convinced that this is the time we all need to listen to his completely rational opinions about banning all Muslim immigration. Wheeee this thread's gonna set a new bar for AIDS.

Right. The end game that helps is progress. Improving poverty worldwide. Improving technology worldwide. Vertical farming to prevent hunger worldwide.

These are the things that defeat violent religions. Not bombs, drones and bans on who can practice what.

I dislike religion more than anyone here, but fighting their hate with our vengeance does nothing for anybody. We need to invest hard in technology and be willing to share it with the world. Cure diseases, cure hunger, cure dirty ****ty water.

So, no idea, that's what I thought.

Hope everyone you know got out ok jar jar

Poverty or lack of it isn't predictive of terrorism though.

If you're just posting to troll, why are you posting at all?

0 engagement on the issues, just low effort garbage.

Why? If we weren't arguing about the causes, motivations, possible policy solutions, political culture, whatever, then what is this thread for? It seems entirely appropriate here. I'll reiterate twitter, the TV, the rest of the internet are all better for capturing the latest news.

Come now:

You're a pretty egregious violator of just that ITT. Vix saying you have no idea is at least to the argument. "Get some help" is a pretty patent violation of the forum rules and needless dbaggery. I couldn't care less in a sense but if this is a pissing match about posting quality, you lose, hands down.

Of course not, but more prosperity = less religious. Ipso facto, making less people religious will bring down religious terrorism.

Thanks

Still stressed about some people not answering texts; but its 2am here so the likely reason is that there are sleeping.

such a horrible+symbolic attack
Pieces of ****

Just horrible events, unimaginable.

This thread is for honoring victims and calling Muslims bad names.