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11-14-2016 , 10:41 AM
Europe and the US are different. There's almost no chance these were Muslims.
11-14-2016 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rebel inc.
I live in Europe and see muslims hate being directed at moderate muslims, native population and especially Jews on daily basis. Jews are actually leaving EU en masse.
So if it's not perfectly clear this is not to be tolerated, no matter what side it comes from instead of dropping it all on Trump supporters, i.e. half of the country, same thing will happen in US. Muslim extrimists will be all too happy to blame it all on Trump supporters.
Integration, rule of law and jobs is what is needed desperately, with Trump there is at least chance of it happening.
I didn't say there were no muslim hate crimes against jews. In this country, the swastika as a symbol is almost exclusively used by far-right anti-semitic white supremacist groups. That's just a fact. It is a completely safe assumption that somebody espousing these types of views is the one who painted this.
11-14-2016 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
They think he will start deporting nonwhites, or at least start paving the way towards that goal. Why even be a white nationalist unless you think that could actually happen? They know that demographic trends are against them (e. g., "#whitegenocide").
He will start making America more white. Day one he is going to start ramping up deportation of Mexicans with criminal records which there are millions of (query whether driving without a valid license counts as a criminal record for these purposes) and ban immigration from most Muslim countries. And these two will require virtually no political capital. "Papers please" laws will spread throughout red states and encouraged by federal gov't rather than discouraged as under Obama administration. Will cause many to "self-deport." Mandatory E-Verify to make it harder for illegals to work also a possibility though R business lobby may fight.

That is plenty of easy stuff to get started with. After that, it is just a matter of seeing what opportunities terrorist attacks and other political events present.
11-14-2016 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
I didn't say there were no muslim hate crimes against jews. In this country, the swastika as a symbol is almost exclusively used by far-right anti-semitic white supremacist groups. That's just a fact. It is a completely safe assumption that somebody espousing these types of views is the one who painted this.
The Anti-Defamation League objects to the appointment of Steve Bannon to the President-Elect's staff (he already served on the campaign staff) because the alt-right he represents are a bunch of 'white nationalists and unabashed anti-semites and racists.'

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-bannon-946935

I think you may have a problem, guys. A really rather serious problem.

Last edited by 57 On Red; 11-14-2016 at 04:23 PM.
11-14-2016 , 05:36 PM
Maybe it was a poster who got perma-banned who was seizing on the current political climate. Never let a good crisis go to waste.
11-14-2016 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
He will start making America more white. Day one he is going to start ramping up deportation of Mexicans with criminal records which there are millions of (query whether driving without a valid license counts as a criminal record for these purposes) and ban immigration from most Muslim countries. And these two will require virtually no political capital. "Papers please" laws will spread throughout red states and encouraged by federal gov't rather than discouraged as under Obama administration. Will cause many to "self-deport." Mandatory E-Verify to make it harder for illegals to work also a possibility though R business lobby may fight.

That is plenty of easy stuff to get started with. After that, it is just a matter of seeing what opportunities terrorist attacks and other political events present.
It's funny how you put this all under the banner of making it all white instead of what it really is, getting rid of illegals...specifically those who have committed legitimate crimes.

I mean what exactly is wrong with tossing out illegals who have committed serious crimes and those who belong to gangs and such? Why do you care? It's not like he is throwing them in ovens. He is simply sending them back to their own countries.

I think trumps supporters would be more than happy getting rid of the actual real criminals and let actual working illegals who have employment stay.

I swear that some of you equivocate being gassed in concentration camps to sending illegals back to their country of origin.

If you or I snuck into Turkey, or Argentina, or Indonesia, or Bulgaria, and we were caught and deported back to America we would both completely understand why they are sending us back. But you somehow think people coming here are entitled to stay.
11-14-2016 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerjunkie101
I think trumps supporters would be more than happy getting rid of the actual real criminals and let actual working illegals who have employment stay.
Huh? A yuuuge chunk of Trumpistas believe that they can't get ahead because Rico and Juanita have stolen their jobs.
11-14-2016 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DrChesspain
Huh? A yuuuge chunk of Trumpistas believe that they can't get ahead because Rico and Juanita have stolen their jobs.
I don't know. I bet if you did a poll (not by idiot Nate silver) you'd see a pretty high % of trump voters would be more than ok with getting the real criminal filth out of this country and letting people without serious crimes who are working stay.

And I'm on of the biggest trumpanzee supporters out there. I think Muslim immigration should be halted and a big shiny wall be built.
11-14-2016 , 06:29 PM
Nate Silver confirmed terrible at conducting polls.
11-15-2016 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerjunkie101
I don't know. I bet if you did a poll (not by idiot Nate silver) you'd see a pretty high % of trump voters would be more than ok with getting the real criminal filth out of this country and letting people without serious crimes who are working stay.
If that was true they wouldn't really care about illegal immigration in the first place. The whole notion of massive criminal filth from foreigners is just racist nonsense.

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And I'm on of the biggest trumpanzee supporters out there. I think Muslim immigration should be halted and a big shiny wall be built.
Yeah, these type of people aren't going to be too reality based, as I'm sure you can verify on your own.
11-15-2016 , 08:23 PM
I play this MMO video game called EVE Online. It's basically a spaceship game set in ldo space. The group I run with is rather large, and is notorious for what is known as "ganking," where a lone "newbie" gets shot out of the spacesky and has his "loot" stolen and then his "spaceship" salvaged. Sometimes to add insult to injury the "gankers" will blow up the "newbie's" "pod" which kills him in the game world as well. Once this happened to some random guy and he sent an in-game e-mail to one of the "gankers" explaining how messed up that was and wondered how "newbies" could be treated this way and vowed revenge or to never play the game again I can't really remember which now. The "ganker" shared this information with the rest of us. Many felt so sorry for the "newbie" that they showered the "newbie" with "isk" which is short for inter stellar kredits ie the in-game currency. Despite the loss of his spaceship he wound up coming out way way ahead on the incident money-wise. The "newbie" was so moved by this act that he not only took back everything bad about the "ganker," he applied to join our group and iirc was accepted.

Anyway this reminded me of that.
11-15-2016 , 08:28 PM
Bomber's Bar are a bunch of lovable aholes
11-16-2016 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Woke up to that yesterday morning. They also painted an arrow to the mezuzah on the door as an explanation. I'm not religious, but my girlfriend semi converted and put it there a while back.

Obviously the Trump win emboldened these folks even though there is no chance that Trump would have approved and almost no chance he is an anti-semite. They will learn this soon enough when they see Trump's upcoming inner circle.
http://lasvegassun.com/blogs/elsewhe...s-inauguratio/
11-16-2016 , 03:52 AM
grunching to say sucks to hear what happened but at least there was a positive outcome in the end

F uck whoever that was though
11-16-2016 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Off topic, but seems clear that the Trump administration will not be friendly for tribal or online gaming.
11-16-2016 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Parlay Slow
Off topic, but seems clear that the Trump administration will not be friendly for tribal or online gaming.
Dang, that's not what Mason told me though.
11-17-2016 , 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
It's almost inconceivable. But I say that mainly because I know many people who have known him a long time.

As I mentioned elsewhere the most recent evidence that he isn't what he appears to be came after his white house visit. It not only made him reconsider his stance on Obamacare but it also had him giving credit to Obama for that change of stance. How many politicians would do that second thing?
I don't know. Perhaps who lacks principle, other than doing and saying things that bring him short term praise and support? The anecdotal evidence your friends have provided you that he is in fact, not a racist, to the contrary, all Americans, and especially those perceived as outsiders, need to worry what he will give voice to in an attempt to "win", whatever the heck that means.

The guys you have talked to who vouch for his purity, most, if not all, I would guess were involved in dealings with him or his organization that benefited themselves financially. They aren't always the best source, DUCY? No matter how many ringing endorsements he has received from lawyers, pit bosses, dealers, marketing guys, the fact that he has used some of the most virulent racists in America to achieve his political goals should give you pause.

On a practical level, one's personal attitudes matter little in comparison to their actions. LBJ was a racist his entire life, on no morning did he wake up and feel even remotely equal to a black person. Yet he passed the Civil Rights Act and ushered in the Great Society, improving the lives of minorities for generations. He did it to buttress his political power. Do you doubt a truly non racist could do the opposite, if he felt it would benefit himself?

I also find it strange that a Jewish guy of your age and education would call attention to the fact that he is non practicing, and the mezuzah was put up by your "convert" girlfriend. To real white nationalists, all of whom support DT, you are the Jew, no matter what you "believe". You could go to Baptist Church every Sunday for the rest of your life, and they would still view you as a subversive outsider. On the other hand, your friend would be just fine, and could slip back in to her birth "group" with no fear of being labeled Jewish by the hard right.

Go into the comment pages on Breitbart and post your original post there. About what happened, just days after the election, and your response to it, 5k and all. See how the most vocal supporters of your assuredly non anti Semite President Elect react. That's the nose of the camel we have let into the tent.
11-17-2016 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I think I've only noticed the ((( ))) around Bernie and now this banker reference. Does it mean dogwhistle in general or Jew in particular?

DS, you should either report it or get a baseball bat and find the ****ers who did it yourself.
Bad advice. If this happens to upper middle class Jewish people, they should laugh it off, try to find a positive in the situation, go on living their lives and assure themselves that everything will be all right as they grab the clean up gear. That strategy worked out pretty well last time.
11-17-2016 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Those spray paint guys aren't gonna care about stuff like that. They just think culture has become too PC and that its ridiculous that we can't openly talk about how Jews and blacks as a whole are awful at work or among casual acquaintances.
11-17-2016 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
I want to caution unsuspecting Yanks that florentinopeces is not necessarily painting an entirely accurate picture of Europe. I'm not aware of 'weekly if not daily' car-burnings and violent clashes with cops and I've met several Jews. A former Lord Mayor of Dublin was Jewish, as was a recent Minister for Justice. Nor is it accurate to say that "much of the left is anti Jewish" in Europe.

There is a problem in the European left, but it's opportunistically exaggerated by the right, and maybe also by particularly ardent Zionists. I know He Who Must Not Be Named Because He Forum-Searches His Username more or less equates criticism of Israel with anti-semitism, just so people don't think I'm merely speculating. And a fair amount of the kerfuffle over Corbyn (by no means all, but some) was about trying to find something to hang him with. Corbyn had maybe at one time stood in the same room as someone who at one time blah blah. Outrage, etc. Corbyn should have treated it more seriously, though.
Britain isn't in Europe anymore, so it's not really relevant what goes on there.

Come to Spain, Greece, etc. and you'll see plenty of protests, even with burned cars. They don't even make the papers in the big cities. It's just normal daily life. It goes up and down with political cycles (no government = less protesting), but it's totally unlike the US, where a few thousand people marching is a big commotion (because in the US it's hard to get off the couch).

The Jewish population outside of France is anecdotal and keeps a low profile to avoid trouble. The European center right tends to sympathize with the US right, and so has adopted to some degree the mainstream US right's fondness for Israel, while the European left generally hates Israel (maybe in traditionally anti-Jewish places like Germany and Austria this is less true). The underlying anti-Jewish sentiment that never disappeared in Europe tends to conflate Jews and Israel, and expressions of anti-Israel sentiment often use language that is essentially anti-Jewish. The large muslim populations in Europe are often antagonistic to Jews, and this has also tended to reinvigorate dormant prejudices in the general population (this has no analogue in the US where there are very few muslims). The left is not much different from the right in regards to Jews except that it likes Israel less and doesn't like fascists. Maybe this is not true when compared with the extreme (nazi) right like Le Pen and so forth, but it is when comparing with the mainstream center right. Also, in Europe the difference between extreme left and extreme right is sometimes hard to make out beyond that they support different football clubs.

Criticizing the left for anti-Jewishness does not make one right wing.
11-17-2016 , 12:36 PM
The extreme right is very different from the extreme left in Europe.

Extreme right = racists
Extreme left = communists
11-17-2016 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
Britain isn't in Europe anymore, so it's not really relevant what goes on there.
LOL
11-18-2016 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
Britain isn't in Europe anymore, so it's not really relevant what goes on there.

Come to Spain, Greece, etc. and you'll see plenty of protests, even with burned cars. They don't even make the papers in the big cities. It's just normal daily life. It goes up and down with political cycles (no government = less protesting), but it's totally unlike the US, where a few thousand people marching is a big commotion (because in the US it's hard to get off the couch).

The Jewish population outside of France is anecdotal and keeps a low profile to avoid trouble. The European center right tends to sympathize with the US right, and so has adopted to some degree the mainstream US right's fondness for Israel, while the European left generally hates Israel (maybe in traditionally anti-Jewish places like Germany and Austria this is less true). The underlying anti-Jewish sentiment that never disappeared in Europe tends to conflate Jews and Israel, and expressions of anti-Israel sentiment often use language that is essentially anti-Jewish. The large muslim populations in Europe are often antagonistic to Jews, and this has also tended to reinvigorate dormant prejudices in the general population (this has no analogue in the US where there are very few muslims). The left is not much different from the right in regards to Jews except that it likes Israel less and doesn't like fascists. Maybe this is not true when compared with the extreme (nazi) right like Le Pen and so forth, but it is when comparing with the mainstream center right. Also, in Europe the difference between extreme left and extreme right is sometimes hard to make out beyond that they support different football clubs.

Criticizing the left for anti-Jewishness does not make one right wing.
Dealt a fair bit with lefties and communists in politics in my country. They're anti-Israel, not anti-Jew. They wouldn't bat an eyelid if one of them was of Jewish descent.

I'm not saying they aren't zealous and annoying in the "let's paint everything in on color" so typical of fringe political movements, but it's unfair to dub them anti-Jew.

I'm sure you can find far lefties which are extreme and anti-semitic, but it's not the norm.
11-18-2016 , 02:08 PM
Props to Sklansky for supporting Trump, even after his fellow voters made him the victim of a hate crime, and despite Trump/Adelson/Wynn being against online gambling that directly affects Sklansky's livelihood, for the sole reason of enriching themselves.

Must be a big BDSM fan as well.

Last edited by z32fanatic; 11-18-2016 at 02:16 PM. Reason: Not that there's anything wrong with that
11-18-2016 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
Dealt a fair bit with lefties and communists in politics in my country. They're anti-Israel, not anti-Jew. They wouldn't bat an eyelid if one of them was of Jewish descent.

I'm not saying they aren't zealous and annoying in the "let's paint everything in on color" so typical of fringe political movements, but it's unfair to dub them anti-Jew.

I'm sure you can find far lefties which are extreme and anti-semitic, but it's not the norm.
They're mostly incapable of making this distinction. Verbally they often don't distinguish. It's not a conscious anti Jewishness. Quite the contrary, they would deny being anti-Jewish, or anti any ethnic or religious group, because being so is not ideologically coherent with being leftist/communist. But what they say about Jews, usually in the context of Israel, is, at any rate, to the ear of someone of Jewish ancestry, sometimes quite disturbing, particularly when one is sitting in some place in France or Austria that never has really dealt with its history in regards to this issue.

      
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