The worst thing about Mike Rowe type conservacelebrities is because they brand themselves as driving around in pick up trucks and wearing baseball hats in their commercials, random morons in the media and elsewhere will treat them like actual working class voters or the voice of the common man despite the fact, as a for instance, Mike Rowe is a trained opera singer and TV host.

Also we can and should point and laugh as the alt right slowly workshops their way into Nazi apologia but it's just the honest and natural extension of their decades-long Confederate apologia, something the dominant political culture has accepted as part of the mosaic of mainstream political discourse until extremely recently. "They were just people fighting for their People and Nation, this was their and is your civic duty, they were defeated fairly in the field of combat and should be respected as honest adversaries" is literally every Southern Pride bro for the last ~150 years.

Normal people might gawk and wonder where these dudes got their zany ethics from but it's not a mystery at all, and we should always, always have seen fawning over the Confederacy as not that distinct from neo Nazism.

Probably. Remember all the people running from Bill Clinton endorsements in 2000?

That seems pretty dubious. Beto needs historic levels of non white turnout and a huge number of people are still undecided because they say they don’t know enough about him.

What’s great is how quickly the Neo-Confederates dropped any pretense of being small-government Libertarian STATES RIGHTS folks. In one election cycle they went from wanting to abolish government to celebrating literal internment camps. Now it’s like oh gee, I guess we really were about white ethno-nationalism all along, whaddyaknow.

The thinking may be like the immigration policy. Do your best to terrorize them and you get fewer applicants. If they could I'm sure they would have recipients forced to identify themselves in the most conspicuous and humiliating way possible.

Phil Ochs - Love me, I'm a liberal

+1 to this episode. One other point that I thought was really good was when they talked about money laundering, and the (perhaps explicitly stated?) fact that NYC couldn't aggressively pursue money laundering violations because it would destroy their economy. There's no chance that the same logic would ever be applied to, like, Baltimore - no way can we aggressively pursue drug violations because that's going to destroy the community.

I had never thought of it in those terms, and it was pretty striking for me to have it presented that way.

[Edit: Skimming the transcript, I don't see this conversation at all. Now I'm wondering if I heard it somewhere else or if I'm losing my mind.]

IT BEGINS

FAO : Foldndark

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I was expecting Goatacolypse days ago what took it so long?

That's how I wanna go

Steve Jobs sucked.

Joan Baez, what were you thinking? But then Dylan was an ahole too.

The goats probably escaped from a yoga studio.

Isn't Dylan still an *******? Did I miss something?

Hard to tell. I haven't been able to make it what he's been saying for decades.

Ezra Klein show with Adam Davidson. Was wondering if the same anecdote was in both podcasts.

Yeah, that makes sense - I listened to them back to back.

She details the same thing happening with the schools she's dealing with, PS 8 and PS 307. They have a plan to move 50 (!!) kids from 8 (the white school) to 307 (the segregated school) because of overcrowding and the parents drag a state senator and assemblyman to the meeting to oppose it, along with plenty of the "I bought an expensive give house here to attend 8, not 307" stuff.

Turns out this is pretty close to what happened.

Not for nothing but if school districts caved every time some gated-community slappies showed up to remind the board that they bought their houses because of the school district they'd never rezone another school, ever.

As always the headline doesn't match the story at all on that Jobs piece.

Yeah, plenty of ahole in the story but lol headline writing.

folks, the russians, when they send their spies, they're not sending their best people

Wonder if 'The Americans' will get a spinoff? There's enough content in the news the past 3 years to get such a series all the way to syndication.