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View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of August?
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III
4 8.70%
John Kelly
6 13.04%
Jared Kushner
3 6.52%
Wilbur Ross
4 8.70%
Ben Carson
2 4.35%
Rudy Giuliani
11 23.91%
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
4 8.70%
Kellyanne Conway
0 0%
Rod Rosenstein
8 17.39%
Write-in
4 8.70%

08-02-2018 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
We haven’t had a good climate change sequence since ikes and domer left.
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/

Until 2008 or 9 the amount of Antarctic Ice was used as a counter pretty much every time. If you look at the graph ten years later it's not something climate deniers bring up. The deniers never completely give up denying, but many mostly moved onto "there's nothing we can do about it", "if we try to do anything about it, we'll probably get it wrong", "it's too expensive to do anything about it" and "just wait, future technology will undo whatever". Domer at least moved onto that stage.
08-02-2018 , 08:02 PM
I heard a straw complaint from a libertarian friend a couple days ago. It's in the air.
08-02-2018 , 08:19 PM
Andrew was pretty woke about them coming for the gays, because he was gay. About other people, not so much.


https://twitter.com/tomgara/status/1025026558984159232
08-02-2018 , 08:24 PM
To be fair, I'm kinda pissed off at Sarah Jeong because she's the only person who has blocked me on twitter. She has a Harvard law degree with a focus on intellectual property law and tweets/writes/reports from big IP law trials. I think she blocked me after I corrected some minor point of design patent law (I didn't notice right away). She probably gets so much **** as a lefty woman tech reporter that she has a hair trigger block finger.

Edit: turns out she has a "proactive" block policy based on who people follow. I follow like 800 people.

Last edited by simplicitus; 08-02-2018 at 08:35 PM.
08-02-2018 , 08:24 PM
Most straw posts that I've seen have been arguing against it from the left: that it's a substantial imposition on the disabled.
08-02-2018 , 08:25 PM
Mike Rowe has posted dumbass **** for years now.
08-02-2018 , 08:27 PM
Yeah it's been getting a little more conservative-dumbass all the time.
08-02-2018 , 08:30 PM
i don't want to make a new thread but the michigan governor race dem primary is interesting.

you got gretchen whitmer who has been minority leader in the state legislature, endorsed by kirsten gillibrand. her message has consistently been, "fix the damn roads" as well as like "hey i actually negotiated in the legislature to expand medicare". she seems to be leading in every poll

you got abdul el-sayed, a 32-year-old head of the detroit health department, endorsed by bernie sanders and aoc. basically running as a democratic socialist without saying it.

and shri thennadar who is a multimillionaire businessman with a thick indian accent and no government experience who has been buying hella tv ads claiming to be "the most progressive candidate for governor" but basically he's playing spoiler to abdul and according to the polling it's working, abdul is in last place. at the debate shri shocked the crowd by saying he'll remove all state income taxes for income up to $50,000 and set up a single-payer health system for michigan. but like, the legislature is dominated by republicans and they've held a supermajority in the state senate for a while now. so whoever wins the general is gonna have to deal with that, and in that position i think i'd rather have whitmer who may be aware of some tricks the other two haven't spent the last several years thinking about it. so i'm el-sayed>whitmer>thennadar rn but they're all interesting.

obama endorsed 6 candidates for governor recently but he stayed out of this one
08-02-2018 , 08:41 PM
08-02-2018 , 08:43 PM

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/s...67529784700929

I feel like we should all get a medal and 10 years of peace after living through the time when America elected its stupidest person president.
08-02-2018 , 08:55 PM
How does Shep stay on Fox News? Do they put him on at 3 in the morning? Does he have pee tapes on someone?
08-02-2018 , 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
obama endorsed 6 candidates for governor recently but he stayed out of this one
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To offer one critique, I'm not shocked that in El-Sayed's case, he's not jumping into an ongoing primary (though I think we can all guess Obama would not endorse him if he were to pick a side).

But no Beto, while offering endorsements in other Texas races? WHAT IN THE **** ARE YOU DOING OBAMA?
08-02-2018 , 09:57 PM
Goofy, we all have to realize that Obama isn’t even close to the dude we thought he was. All good but time to move on.
08-02-2018 , 09:58 PM
The only former president worth a **** is Jimmy Carter. He’s eligible to run in 2020, too.
08-02-2018 , 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by microbet
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/

Until 2008 or 9 the amount of Antarctic Ice was used as a counter pretty much every time. If you look at the graph ten years later it's not something climate deniers bring up. The deniers never completely give up denying, but many mostly moved onto "there's nothing we can do about it", "if we try to do anything about it, we'll probably get it wrong", "it's too expensive to do anything about it" and "just wait, future technology will undo whatever". Domer at least moved onto that stage.
Freeman Dyson has "it has positive effects too" covered. He's mid-90s now but afaik he still has reasonable amount of his faculties.
08-02-2018 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Related:



To offer one critique, I'm not shocked that in El-Sayed's case, he's not jumping into an ongoing primary (though I think we can all guess Obama would not endorse him if he were to pick a side).

But no Beto, while offering endorsements in other Texas races? WHAT IN THE **** ARE YOU DOING OBAMA?
Idk, I'm not gonna go to bat for Obama, as he has been pretty disappointing out of office, but the graphic does say "First Wave" and maybe it's better for their fundraising if they stagger the endorsements.
08-03-2018 , 01:35 AM
I don’t get the Sarah Jeong stuff, white males are huge penises.
08-03-2018 , 02:11 AM
Citylab with a good look at what SNAP benefits provide and who receives them, though inexplicably presented in the form of cartoon-like images instead of plain text despite having really good content

To manually transcribe some of the highlights:

- most SNAP recipients are white
- most have children

Quote:
In food-insecure household with children, 85% are headed by adults who work.
- average SNAP benefit provides only $1.86 per meal
- in 2016, SNAP users in NYC alone spent over $1 million at GrowNYC farmers' markets; the Trump admin recently shut down the ability to use food stamps at farmers' markets
08-03-2018 , 02:43 AM
I believe I read recently the cost of oversight to verify work would be more costly than just paying out the benefits. Snap benefits for a single person is less than $200. I am pretty sure the multiple for households is even less.

I wholly support real programs that provide real support, education and training to help people get jobs. This measure is strictly designed to just take food out of people’s mouths for no good reason. Only a horrible human would support this nonsense. None of this is about saving money, it is about punishing people, hopefully brown and black ones.

Adding to goofyballers post, this is a solution without a problem. Most SNAP recipients work. It is strictly a way for politicians to appeal to their racist base.
08-03-2018 , 02:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
- most SNAP recipients are white
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Originally Posted by markksman
This measure is strictly designed to just take food out of people’s mouths for no good reason. Only a horrible human would support this nonsense. None of this is about saving money, it is about punishing people, hopefully brown and black ones.

Adding to goofyballers post, this is a solution without a problem. Most SNAP recipients work. It is strictly a way for politicians to appeal to their racist base.
One thing this made me think of - this dovetails nicely with yesterday's "Why Is This Happening?" (Chris Hayes podcast), a conversation with Nikole Hannah-Jones about school segregation. They brought up a really good point at the end (and god bless NBC for posting transcripts):

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CHRIS HAYES: My argument to white people, is that, there's two arguments, right? Like, and I wrote a book on criminal justice trying to make this. One is that like, white supremacy is everywhere and it's moral poison. It's poisoning you, it's poisoning you morally, it's destroying your soul. It's poisoning the way you see the world and you have the capacity to put yourself in other peoples shoes, because humans are amazing creatures and if you actually work at it you could create some discipline where you just... You don't have to be perfect at it, you just have to do it a lot. To try to do it.

But the other argument that is this practical argument, which is a little along the social security line, but like in the criminal justice system, it's like things that are ****ty about America are basically all flow out of apartheid and white supremacy. Which is the way we create ... The criminal justice system we have, which by the way puts a ton of white people behind bars, and forecloses their future and there are a ton very bad white schools and there is a ton of under provisioning of public services for all Americans in this country, that has been born out of the fact that race is the central alignment by which our politics have been driven for so long. It does screw everyone in the end.

NIKOLE HANNAH-JONES: It does.

CHRIS HAYES: I really do believe that.

NIKOLE HANNAH-JONES: I believe that's why we don't have a public health care system. Clearly, every other country we would relate to does. It's the reason why southern states were willing not to expand Medicaid, even though it hurt more white people than black people. It disproportionally hurt black people, so they were still willing to do that.

So, yes white people are being hurt by the racist nature of our country all the time. The problem is, because we are country built on white supremacy, whiteness is more important than those things.
In short: white supremacy hurts everyone, even white people! But without it, white people couldn't have their whiteness, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(recommend the episode btw - it's obvious when you think about it, but they really highlight now stark and ****ed up it is that our starting point for talking about education in America is accepting "separate but equal", something that was declared unconstitutional a generation ago, as the goal of education reform)
08-03-2018 , 03:33 AM
The above sent me to Hannah-Jones' excellent 2016 NYT mag feature about choosing a school for her daughter in NYC, which is really interesting and includes a deep dive by example, looking at two schools (including their daughter's), on how the mechanics of segregation are perpetuated in 2018
08-03-2018 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
The above sent me to Hannah-Jones' excellent 2016 NYT mag feature about choosing a school for her daughter in NYC, which is really interesting and includes a deep dive by example, looking at two schools (including their daughter's), on how the mechanics of segregation are perpetuated in 2018
Skimmed the article, but this doesn't even address the huge blow up in the Upper West Side (certainly one of the most, if not THE most "liberal" places in the country) when they tried to rezone schools. Rich white people went ****ing crazy. It's a huge ****ing problem in NYC.
08-03-2018 , 06:15 AM
On a semi-related note, came across this Twitter exchange between podcast legend Dan Carlin (who isn't some liberal champion by any means) and a Nazi, re: concentration camp guards laughing in a picture:



08-03-2018 , 06:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
But no Beto, while offering endorsements in other Texas races? WHAT IN THE **** ARE YOU DOING OBAMA?
Is there a chance that Beto thinks he's better off in Texas without an endorsement from Obama?
08-03-2018 , 06:23 AM
Dan Carlin is legit the only guy I've ever seen that has spoken badly about Trump that still gets a good amount of respect from the pro Trump crowd. At most you'll hear from them is " I disagree with his politics. "

      
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