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August LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of August?

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III

4 8.70%

John Kelly

6 13.04%

Jared Kushner

3 6.52%

Wilbur Ross

4 8.70%

Ben Carson

2 4.35%

Rudy Giuliani

11 23.91%

Sarah Huckabee Sanders

4 8.70%

Kellyanne Conway

0 0%

Rod Rosenstein

8 17.39%

Write-in

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08-21-2018 , 02:18 PM

#1301

kerowo

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Because you get the same entertainment from a streamed video as you do from a disc. You get the same stories in a digital book as you do in one on paper. You pay for it so the people who produce the content you like can make more of it. "I don't get anything tangible" is just bull****.

08-21-2018 , 02:19 PM

#1302

Namath12

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if AT&T and WalMart can profit off prison labor why can't I get a housekeeper out of the deal?

08-21-2018 , 02:29 PM

#1303

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

No. Historically when you bought artistic material the actual art itself was free. What you paid for was the material it was stored on (canvasses/posters, printed books, vinyl, DVDs etc) ie the tangibles, and a portion of the profit from that went to the artists (and others of course).

This is why people resent paying for downloaded music.

08-21-2018 , 02:34 PM

#1304

rockfsh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

if AT&T and WalMart can profit off prison labor why can't I get a housekeeper out of the deal?

You can if you're the governor of Arkansas, Louisiana, Georgia et al

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/at...tol-buildings/

08-21-2018 , 02:59 PM

#1305

DrChesspain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

I hate the idea of paying for something that's just a digital copy, a stream of 1s and 0s, without anything tangible to show for it.

wtf should I pay for that?

LOL

08-21-2018 , 03:03 PM

#1306

uDevil

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All that we see or seem is but a stream of 1s and 0s within a stream of 1s and 0s.

08-21-2018 , 03:07 PM

#1307

jalfrezi

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That sounds very profound but doesn't address the conundrum of needing accompanying visual and tangible materials for art that is 100% aural, for instance, to provide a context for what we are experiencing.

08-21-2018 , 03:11 PM

#1308

goofyballer

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CA state senator faces demands to resign after altercation with female lobbyist

Guess the party!

Quote:

The California Nurses Association is calling for a lawmaker to resign from the Senate and withdraw his candidacy for the state Board of Equalization after an altercation with its lobbyist at a Sacramento restaurant.

The California Senate is investigating the incident, which occurred during an evening fundraiser at The Diplomat Steakhouse, a restaurant across the street from the Capitol.

Sen. Joel Anderson, X-XXXXX, was kicked out of restaurant on August 13 after the dispute, which he describes as a misunderstanding.

In a statement provided to The Sacramento Bee, The Diplomat said a “male patron threatened to strike a female patron.”

“This threat was observed by restaurant staff who immediately intervened and escorted the male out without further incident,” said Patrick Harbison, a spokesman for The Diplomat. He added that the restaurant is willing to participate in the investigation.

The California Nurses Association identified the woman as Stephanie Roberson, its government relations director.

“Specifically, at that event, as witnessed by several people in attendance and restaurant staff, Sen. Anderson engaged in both physical and verbal acts of sexual harassment, that were followed by repeated threats of violence when Ms. Roberson objected to his behavior,” said Bonnie Castillo, executive director of the California Nurses Association, in a statement.

Spoiler:

08-21-2018 , 03:12 PM

#1309

Max Cut

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kindle book *clicks add to cart*
ream of paper *clicks add to cart*

*wanders off complaining about the outrageous price Rembrandt is charging for paint and canvas*

08-21-2018 , 03:26 PM

#1310

pvn

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08-21-2018 , 03:33 PM

#1311

uDevil

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I read Catcher in the Rye not that long ago. I didn't come away thinking, wow great book, but I found myself thinking about it for a long time after. So, great book.

08-21-2018 , 03:35 PM

#1312

True North

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

People who resent paying for downloaded music do so because they don’t like paying for stuff in general. Has nothing to do with it being downloadable.

08-21-2018 , 03:37 PM

#1313

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

LMAO - Writers haven't made their own books in your lifetime. Directors aren't burning Blu-ray discs. This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

Quote:

This is why people resent paying for downloaded music.

Probably not, more likely they like free things and the music industry trained them to like the free version of music like on the radio or TV. That or they don't think a 10 year old CD is worth the same price as new release when only 2 songs are any good on either of them, particularly if they already paid for the album and cassette.

08-21-2018 , 03:38 PM

#1314

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

You can only enjoy music if you are looking at the CD jewel cover while listening to it?

08-21-2018 , 03:40 PM

#1315

ecriture d'adulte

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I don’t know if Catcher is a great book but it’s one of the few reading assignments from high school I kinda remember. Can’t tell you anything about The Scarlet Letter or Tess of the D’villes.

08-21-2018 , 03:46 PM

#1316

ReasonableGuy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Mine is my favorite work of fiction, Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro. While I wouldn't call it a political book, it has a perspective on human behavior and the human condition that would probably be interesting to most politards. I was into Ishiguro before he was cool a Nobel Prize winner. I'm about to start reading The Unconsoled, which I've been meaning to get to for a while.

I can highly recommend The Buried Giant by Ishiguro as well.

08-21-2018 , 03:48 PM

#1317

All-In Flynn

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I grabbed it off my parents' bookshelves when I was about 13 and loved it. Like, This Be The Verse, maaan. Then had to do it in school, which was even worse than doing a book you hadn't read several times before. Must be pushing twenty years since I read it, might revisit sometime. Pretty certain it'll be underwhelming though, so hard to get geared up for.

08-21-2018 , 03:53 PM

#1318

jalfrezi

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

LMAO - Writers haven't made their own books in your lifetime. Directors aren't burning Blu-ray discs. This is the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

Umm yes, and what does that have to do with it? I don't think you get the point at all, which to spell it out for you is about how Art is best (and intended to be) experienced within a context, not a vacuum, or it tends towards visual or aural decoration.

08-21-2018 , 04:00 PM

#1319

bobman0330

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Good bit by Conor Friedersdorf:

https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...-ideas/567550/

Basically argues that media gatekeepers promote the craziest parts of the discourse to maximize engagement, to the great detriment of the marketplace of ideas. Increasingly convinced that this concept is the key to understanding our current political moment. In essence, the media is slinging brain-fentanyl to boost their profits, and it's rapidly destroying the world. CNN's coverage of the Gulf War is when it all started to come undone.

08-21-2018 , 04:00 PM

#1320

goofyballer

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Current Affairs GOAT

Why Nordic “Socialism” Won’t Work In The U.S.: by Ben Shapiro*

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But socialism means tyranny and an incompetently-managed centrally planned economy. None of these countries has so much as a single gulag. Nordic countries are not socialism, and anyone who thinks Stalin is good should look elsewhere for their economic model.

Quote:

It’s important to remember that the United States is not a Nordic country. We have more people. We are in a different hemisphere. We do not speak Norwegian. Crime is low there, whereas we put many more people in prison without achieving nearly the same level of safety. The whole comparison is apples and oranges. Saying that free college and single-payer healthcare would work in the United States just because it works in Sweden is like saying that we could watch the Aurora Borealis in Miami if the government said so. Well, we couldn’t. That’s a fact, and facts don’t care about your feelings. You may think you can just wake up and start speaking Swedish. But you can’t. Fact.

*not actually written by Ben Shapiro

08-21-2018 , 04:21 PM

#1321

microbet

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I'm probably the one here who was talking about Prague Cemetery. I checked it out from the library.

08-21-2018 , 04:24 PM

#1322

Johnny Truant

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

Current Affairs GOAT

Why Nordic “Socialism” Won’t Work In The U.S.: by Ben Shapiro*

*not actually written by Ben Shapiro

Perfect!

I liked Catcher in the Rye a lot when I was a teenager. I should probably check it out again to remember why.

One weird Catcher in the Rye anecdote--I had my school assigned copy in my hand in a burrito place in SF and Sean Lennon was sitting at a table eating there. When I realized it, it made me feel very weird.

08-21-2018 , 04:29 PM

#1323

microbet

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As I recall I liked catcher in the rye when I read it in school. My daughter loved it. She laughed her ass off reading it and talked about Holden a lot.

08-21-2018 , 04:43 PM

#1324

zikzak

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I hated Catcher in the Rye, not just for itself but also for inspiring the entire genre of precocious-prep-school-kid-experiences-defining-life-moment. God how I loathe those stories.