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August LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of August?

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III

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John Kelly

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Jared Kushner

3 6.52%

Wilbur Ross

4 8.70%

Ben Carson

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Rudy Giuliani

11 23.91%

Sarah Huckabee Sanders

4 8.70%

Kellyanne Conway

0 0%

Rod Rosenstein

8 17.39%

Write-in

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08-31-2018 , 11:45 AM

#1801

Namath12

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Speaking of garbage headlines

NY Times: Asian-American Students Suing Harvard Over Affirmative Action Win Justice Dept. Support

No Asian-Americans are involved in any way with the suit but that's okay we have a deadline no time to write an accurate headline.

ETA: That article links to this one, the hyperlink reading, "a group of Asian-Americans rejected by Harvard." If you click through, you don't meet "a group of Asian-Americans," you meet literally one Asian-American. This poor fellow was (gasp!) forced to attend DUKE to pursue his studies because discrimination.

His name is Austin Jia. The caption below his picture reads:

Quote:

Austin Jia, a student at Duke, said he was “super disillusioned” when he was rejected by several Ivy League colleges he applied to. A lawsuit, to which he is not a party, accuses Harvard of discriminating against Asian-Americans in admissions and giving preferences to other racial minorities.

Relevant bits are bolded for the convenience of the reader.

Last edited by Namath12; 08-31-2018 at 11:53 AM.

08-31-2018 , 11:47 AM

#1802

Namath12

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And it's obvious but to go ahead and state the obvious: All this "settled law" is getting re-litigated now because Trump, really McConnell, have been very adept in ramming right-wing judges through to confirmation so they're not going to bother waiting for 60 GOP senators to grace the Capitol, they're going ahead and appealing to the activist judges they've assured (lied to) us these past 30+ years that they truly despise.

08-31-2018 , 12:25 PM

#1803

Max Cut

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Quote:

Following decades of underrepresentation of women in engineering fields worldwide, Cornell’s numbers represent a historic shift.

https://twitter.com/CornellNews/stat...03300998754304

08-31-2018 , 12:35 PM

#1804

Namath12

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Theresa May will never Africadance as awesomely as Dubya Africadances

08-31-2018 , 01:09 PM

#1805

Koss

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Best dramatic use of elevators in a movie:

Die hard?

The Shining?

Other?

Drive

08-31-2018 , 02:10 PM

#1806

patron

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 3,805

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Bolded is key. The suit has literally nothing to do with "Asian Americans," in fact they have not been able to find a single Asian American willing to sign onto the suit. Not one.

Whether this is true or not, it is misleading, because "On May 15, 2015, a coalition of more than 60 Asian-American organizations filed federal complaints with the United States Department of Education and Department of Justice against Harvard University. The coalition asked for a civil rights investigation into what it described as Harvard's discriminatory admission practices against Asian-American applicants. The complaints were dismissed in July 2015 because a lawsuit making similar allegations was filed by Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) in November 2014."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_F...ssion_Practice
Wiki, but links to other media sources.

Asian Americans asked the government for a civil rights investigation (that would not necessarily end affirmative action) in order to end discrimination against Asian Americans, and the government said No, refer to the SFFA lawsuit. So Asian Americans have no choice except to look to this lawsuit.

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Now that we've disabused ourselves of the notion that the right-wingers who filed this suit gaf about Asian Americans: I do not support the lawsuit because I am in favor of AA. I'm certainly not crazy about some of the obviously subjective admissions criteria Harvard clings to, like "helpfulness" (wtf?) and if you wanna have that conversation it's worth having imo. But this lawsuit is horse**** and pretty much everyone who isn't a right-wing troglodyte knows it.

I agree with almost all of this - that white right-wingers do not gaf about Asian Americans, that Harvard/college admissions should not be based on discriminatory "personality" scores, that I do not support the lawsuit's desired outcome of ending affirmative action, etc.

That is not what I am asking about. I am asking if it is okay for colleges to discriminate against Asian Americans, and assuming the answer is no, what should be done about it?

I have suggested race-blind admissions among all non-underrepresented minorities, while retaining affirmative action for underrepresented minorities.

Would anyone in this forum have any problems with this, or is there a better solution?

08-31-2018 , 03:17 PM

#1807

another loser

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Originally Posted by microbet

They're reading stuff from Howard Zinn's People's History of the United States in my daughter's history class - junior year - public high school.

Give that teacher a high-five.

08-31-2018 , 03:18 PM

#1808

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

https://twitter.com/CornellNews/stat...03300998754304

That's great for Cornell, but the national number is about what it's been for at least 20 years.

08-31-2018 , 03:19 PM

#1809

rockfsh

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The Eye

08-31-2018 , 04:49 PM

#1810

goofyballer

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If anyone's curious what's going on over at the WSJ op-ed page, an editor at Quillette writes for them about the terrifying non-Western things he saw in Muslim areas of England

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When I was visiting the U.K. as a teenager in 2006, I got lost in an East London market. There I saw a group of women wearing head-to-toe black cloaks. I froze, confused and intimidated by the faceless figures. It was my first encounter with the niqab, which covers everything but a woman’s eyes.

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Muslims walked in one direction for jumu’ah, Friday prayer, while non-Muslims went the opposite way. Each group kept its distance and avoided eye contact with the other. A sign was posted on a pole: “Alcohol restricted zone.”

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The scene could have been lifted out of Riyadh, a testament to the Arabization of Britain’s South Asian Muslims.

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A kind man on staff showed me around the men’s quarters. He gave me a bag filled with booklets about Islam. In one, Muslims are encouraged to “re-establish the Shari’ah,” or Islamic law. Those who ignore this mandate are “of little worth to any society.”

And hey, why not take a tour of...sites of terrorist attacks? Seems very relevant!

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That night, I visited the Houses of Parliament. Rifle-carrying police officers greeted me when I stepped out of the Tube. The extra security was mobilized in response to last year’s car and stabbing attack in Westminster by Khalid Masood, who killed five people.

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Next I visited Leyton, another district in East London where some Muslim social norms prevail. An Arab cafe near the Tube station was filled with men; no women were inside. An Islamic bookstore sold hijab-wearing dolls for children. The dolls had blank, featureless faces, since human depictions are prohibited in conservative Islam.

How dare they!

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All this gave me pause. But I was unprepared for what I would see next in Luton, a small town 30 miles north of London and the birthplace of the English Defense League, which has held unruly anti-Muslim demonstrations. At the Central Mosque, I met a friendly group of Punjabi-speaking young men. “You’ve come to see Luton?” one struggled to ask me in English.

^ Subtle!

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Within minutes, we walked by three other mosques, which were vibrant and filled with young men coming and going. We passed a church, which was closed and decrepit, with a window that had been vandalized with eggs.

How dare they disrespect Christianity like this! By...failing to keep a church open and in good condition? Totally their fault!

Quote:

Pakistani flags flew high and proud. I never saw a Union Jack.

THE HORROR!

And the piece de resistance:

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Other tourists might remember London for Buckingham Palace, Piccadilly Circus and Big Ben. I’ll remember it for its failed multiculturalism. Or perhaps this is what successful multiculturalism looks like.

Literally the entire argument is "they don't live like we do and that's disgusting". Could you imagine this piece being written about Amish people? Or Orthodox Jews? Or Mexican immigrant communities that don't speak English? This mother****er. It's BruceZ's "circus music" but written in the Wall Street Journal.

08-31-2018 , 04:53 PM

#1811

Trolly McTrollson

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It should be pointed out that the alcohol restriction laws have dick to do with Islam. That’s an ordinance brought on by problems with too many drunk Englishmen.

08-31-2018 , 04:55 PM

#1812

goofyballer

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This guy seems to be a professional troll, as he's happily retweeting all the hatred directed his way on Twitter

Imagine being the WSJ and being dumb enough to print this guy's troll bait, lol

08-31-2018 , 05:44 PM

#1813

ScreaminAsian

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https://twitter.com/PFTompkins/statu...28848069500928

08-31-2018 , 05:58 PM

#1814

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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I was expecting that to be somebody copping a feel on Meghan McCain while her husband was there.

I'm highly disappointed by such clickbait tweets.

08-31-2018 , 07:44 PM

#1815

wheatrich

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END SOCIALISM FOR GOOD DAMNIT

Last edited by wheatrich; 08-31-2018 at 07:56 PM.

08-31-2018 , 07:50 PM

#1816

OmgGlutten!

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If the republicans are successful, won't all the schools just be filled with asians? Won't there be less whites?

08-31-2018 , 07:57 PM

#1817

suzzer99

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Depressing thread. Can we please just hold it together for the 30 good years I have left? After that **** all y'all.

08-31-2018 , 08:57 PM

#1818

StimAbuser

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lol my deplorable dad called me for computer help. He posts pro trump stuff all day long. Apparently facebook was asking him to do captcha's to prove he is not a bot. Had to guide him through it.

He also asked me how to block someone because they said mean things about Trump.

08-31-2018 , 09:12 PM

#1819

ScreaminAsian

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shoulda fake tried to help and convince him "facebook banned him"

08-31-2018 , 10:27 PM

#1820

zikzak

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Nauru refugees: The island where children have given up on life

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Suicide attempts and horrifying acts of self-harm are drawing fresh attention to the suffering of refugee children on Nauru, in what is being described as a "mental health crisis".

The tiny island nation, site of Australia's controversial offshore processing centre, has long been plagued with allegations of human rights abuses.

But a series of damning media reports recently has also highlighted a rapidly deteriorating situation for young people.

"We are starting to see suicidal behaviour in children as young as eight and 10 years old," says Louise Newman, professor of psychiatry at the University of Melbourne who works with families and children on the island.

08-31-2018 , 11:24 PM

#1821

StimAbuser

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I thought Australia was a pretty awesome place until I learned about that island. WTF Australia

08-31-2018 , 11:35 PM

#1822

microbet

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Here's my OOT book report on Nauru from 2015

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=1121

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Has anyone heard of Nauru?

It is a tiny tiny island 1500 miles or so off the coast of Australia. It has about 10000 residents. It is 8.1 square miles. About 20 miles around.

They became very very rich in the 60's because their island is basically made out of phosphate and it got mined. At one point they may have been the richest people per capita in the world. The mayor had a Lamborghini for the 20 some miles of roads. Babies were given cars as birthday presents.

Predictably mining your entire Island doesn't end up well. Basically there's a ring of inhabitable land with a mined out center. When the mining money was tapering off they tried to invest enough to live off, but the investments didn't go well.

So, they tried being home to 400 or so fake banks which mostly the Russian mafia used to launder money. They had $70B or so (that's laundering alone, supposedly at one point there was more than a $trillion) in these banks when their GDP was $70M or so. That didn't work out well either and they ended up with legal problems and $800M in debt.

Pretty interesting so far, but what's going on now is horrifying.

Desperate, now they get paid by the Australian government to have a detention center for refugees, mostly from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Iraq and Iran. There are 1000 or so of these refugees who may stay there in the middle of the ocean for up to 5 years in abominable conditions. Riots, hunger strikes, suicides, people sewing their mouths shut as protest.

I was reading about it in a book on climate change, as an example of environmental degradation, also the island will be further eroded by sea level rising, but it was an astounding story.

09-01-2018 , 12:07 AM

#1823

ScreaminAsian

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