How much staggering would you have to do in order to allow for a group who is an entire hole behind after two holes?

Let's see:

A typical group plays in 15 mins/hole, so this group is playing in 22.5 mins/hole, which means they will finish in 6.75 hours. So in order to a normal speed group behind them to not run into them, they would need to be started, um, let's see, uh.. 2 HOURS AND 15 MINUTES AFTER THEM.

Yup, simple solution why didn't the course think of that?


Image of scorecard with rules.


lol Johnny

Holy **** you golfers are full of rage!

Sounds quite accommodating of them, but you gotta get these Black women thrown out!!!!

WRONG

Seems like the market decided that letting people play slow is fine unless they are Black. Commie.

Here is my hot take outrage. The hair-trigger/escalation to the cops being called betrays the assumption that they were ever truly being treated respectfully at any point in the process.

Wait, no I got it...stagger the starting times as if every group is an average speed player, then blame the people who are not as good or new to the sport for being literal pieces of ****, inconsiderate *******s. carry on.

Also, lol at the scorecard rules. I have seen people pissing in the bushes every single time I play, wasted drunk, golfers I know have flipped carts, dove into ponds, passed out...all white men so no cops involved though. I'm sure every course has similar rules, my point is if they really are going to take it to the extreme enforcement level of calling the police they should be very clear verbally with those signing up to play. I was not told jack **** about how fast I was to play, but I am sure it was on the card in small print somewhere.

Wat this is like the opposite of what I said.

This derail has now jumped the shark

tilted donkey, you are making many unfavorable assumptions about the women.

How hard is it to be an entire hole behind after 1 hole? Actually it is very easy and doesn't mean you are slow. Let the first hole be a long, difficult par 3. Group 2 waits for group 1 to clear the green before starting. Let the second hole be a short, easy par 3. Further, suppose group 2 (unlike group 1) waves up group 3 from the first green and group 3 is not fast teeing off. Group 2 has done everything right and regardless of how fast they are you should expect the 2nd hole to be completely open when they get there.

The biggest clue in the article I read is the women were told they were taking too long on their break at 9 and this is what led to calling the cops. When you are stuck behind a slow driver, raging and cursing, you can argue the slow driver is at fault. When the slow driver parks their car and you follow them and park behind them, then your raging and cursing looks quite odd.
Reasonable people grab a hot dog to go, jump on the 10th tee, and enjoy the glorious open spaces. Fast players will reclaim the gap and finish even faster than if the slow players stayed perfectly in position.

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To clarify a microbet question, the priority of groups in golf is 2 > 3 > 4 > 1, but it rarely matters. When you are 'out of position' you let people play through. As I showed in the example above, an open hole does not always imply out of position. Groups of 5 aren't really a thing, but obviously this club has them.

Thread has made my already low opinion of golfers much worse.

Can't you just skip ahead to the next hole and come back later to the one you skipped?

Comrade,

I know you said that y'all serious golfers would prefer MAXIMUM enforcement of golf speed. But since all you regular golfers in this thread are steaming out your ears about the constant slow playing golfers that must not be what the market is providing. If you want regulations to provide services that the market doesn't provide take it up with the local Commisar.

All of this golf talk has brought back unpleasant memories and harshed my mellow.

I didn't even think it was possible for an LC thread to need a ****ty derail excised, but here we are

I'm not sure this is optimal but it's better than your original suggestion so.. progress?

What are you and your friends too stupid to read the rules on the card or something...

Oh.

Uh why? That's not how it's supposed to work. That would be... slow play.

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Okay but on this particular golf course, the first hole is a par 4, the second hole is a par 3, and the third hole is a par 5.

So after playing a par 4 and a par 3 they were able to skip a par 5, which is actually WORSE than I assumed, so... yeah.

Also have you ever played golf? You don't need to "wave people up from the green" on a "long, difficult par 4". You don't wait for people to clear the green on par 4s unless you can drive the green. What are you talking about?

Also you just made this priority up out of thin air, although singles being at the bottom is correct.

Man you can't derail the LC thread.

Generally not.

If the course isn't crowded, maybe, but then you could also probably play through.

I think you misunderstand. There might be constant slow play on the peasant courses that you and your ilk frequent but at good golf courses that isn't tolerated. The market definitely provides courses with good pace of play for those who can afford it and are therefore better than those who cannot.

Also, I'm not really a hyper-capitalist or anything, I think an economic system somewhat to the left of what we currently have would be optimal.

I'm a real peasant bro. I've never set foot on a real golf course other than use the public right of way through the Trump course in Palos Verdes to get to the cliffs and down to the beach there.

Have you listened to the Revisionist History ep on golf courses in LA microbet? I recommend it if you would like more ammunition for your golf-hating ways.

Daddy just got bitchslapped by a federal court on DACA, has been ordered to restart it

Yeah like I was saying, incels was the creepiest stuff I've ever seen on the internet. They were around for a long time before Reddit finally banned them. I like the good sides of Reddit, but good lord how can they not do a better job policing their bad sides. It's not like it's stuff flying under the radar, there had been posts for months that reached the front page calling for these subs to be banned with countless examples of this awful stuff.

So you can buy endorsements, neat

I like the cut of this tweeter's jib

the honorable jared kushner is how he should be described in the survivor poll

Nope. I will check it out. Golf courses of course have an awful history of not allowing Blacks or Jews. A country club in LA famously offered to allow in Groucho Marx as long as he wouldn't use the pool. I don't know if the podcast on golf in LA gets into water. I avoided mentioning that because it's not a huge deal in most of the country, but golf courses in LA, Palm Springs, Las Vegas and such are extra abominable.

god please can we drone strike all of the golf posters