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04-01-2019 , 05:25 PM
AM radio extremism isn't mainstream unless you roll with white supremacists bro

why do you think they keep coming out the woodwork every time you do some **** like this? you've literally had to close down multiple forums
04-01-2019 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
AM radio extremism isn't mainstream unless you roll with white supremacists bro

why do you think they keep coming out the woodwork every time you do some **** like this?
Your answer is yes, then? You would be just as upset if Sean Hannity had a forum here as Augie?
04-01-2019 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
WHo'd want to be a mod on a white supremacy site?
like 30 percent or so of the mods here?
04-01-2019 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
You have an onset of old age syndrome
Don’t we all? I have to take ****ing Zantac when I have buffalo wings now. Zantac!
04-01-2019 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Your answer is yes, then? You would be just as upset if Sean Hannity had a forum here as Augie?
yes, because his TV show is nothing but white supremacist propaganda and you giving him a forum dedicated to it is tantamount to endorsing that.

that kind of **** may be mainstream thinking at your golf club or whatever, but not within scientific/socio-economic research communities which look for data-driven solutions to policy challenges.

it's all bull****, and you're falling for it.
04-01-2019 , 05:36 PM
Fox News does have to boot some of its talent here and there for their bigotry.
04-01-2019 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Your answer is yes, then? You would be just as upset if Sean Hannity had a forum here as Augie?
Some of the stuff Augie has posted here is a lot more extreme than Sean Hannity or AM talk radio.
04-01-2019 , 05:41 PM
^that is also true
04-01-2019 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
No

If 2+2 were a white nationalist site then I wouldn't even post here. I suspect you wouldn't either.
Wtf

Your forum was shut down because the white nationalists took it over and ran amok while you were, er, somewhere else.
04-01-2019 , 05:43 PM
the gaslighting never ends
04-01-2019 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Serious questions:

As far as I can tell augie and others are parroting right wing talk radio. Am I wrong about that? If not, you're asking us to censor a huge part of "mainstream" thinking and discussion?
You already know that I agree with the idea that mainstream views on the right ought to be tolerable, even when those on the left think those views are problematic. At least within some reasonable bounds of "mainstream".

But the problem with giving augie a forum isn't really that he's a white supremacist or that some right-wing views ought not to be tolerable. The real problem is that his only interest is to troll people on the left. He says he wants to talk about politics, but in reality he just wants to post and have an audience for his trolling.
04-01-2019 , 05:46 PM
he IS a white supremacist bro, claiming that nazis > antifa isn't at all ambiguous
04-01-2019 , 05:58 PM
Hi Mat,

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Originally Posted by augie_
I don't defend nazis, they're bad. Just slightly better than Antifa, who hit people with weapons and then hide behind women.

Here's my official ranking:

Antifa/Nazis < Rest of World
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Originally Posted by augie_;
antifa are actually slightly worse than the nazi protesters, in my opinion.

the nazi protesters had a nice aesthetic with the torches. antifa are a band of masked thugs who are generally ugly and who hide behind a bunch of women, jump out to hit people with sticks, and then go back behind the protection of women.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3017

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Originally Posted by augie_
that post is not racist and is also true. antifa are largely ugly. have you seen their mugshots after they get arrested?
Are not takes that I would expect to hear even on Rush or Hannity.

That was just what I found in about 5 minutes of searching from memory. He’s posted worse.

Regards,
—jman220

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04-01-2019 , 06:07 PM
I had never heard of Nipsey Hussle but I had heard of Nipsey Russell.
04-01-2019 , 06:15 PM
"The mainstream media talks about this stuff" is one of the stupidest justifications I've ever heard. Some part of the mainstream media has discussed and promoted the most vile aspects of every single repressive regime and human atrocity in history. That's ****ing how repressive ****ing regimes gain the ****ing power they need to commit their ****ing atrocities.
04-01-2019 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Your answer is yes, then? You would be just as upset if Sean Hannity had a forum here as Augie?
Yes, right-wing media is a gateway to right-wing extremism and augie's forum can fulfill that role too.

Last edited by gregorio; 04-01-2019 at 06:57 PM.
04-01-2019 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Your answer is yes, then? You would be just as upset if Sean Hannity had a forum here as Augie?
That you ask that question is lol.
04-01-2019 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
You already know that I agree with the idea that mainstream views on the right ought to be tolerable, even when those on the left think those views are problematic. At least within some reasonable bounds of "mainstream".

But the problem with giving augie a forum isn't really that he's a white supremacist or that some right-wing views ought not to be tolerable. The real problem is that his only interest is to troll people on the left. He says he wants to talk about politics, but in reality he just wants to post and have an audience for his trolling.
right now mainstream right wing views include brown people from ****hole countries are evil and trying to destroy america, permanently separating children from their parents is cool and keeping thousands of children/people in cages is a-OK, you think those should be tolerated?
04-01-2019 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CheckRaise
right now mainstream right wing views include brown people from ****hole countries are evil and trying to destroy america, permanently separating children from their parents is cool and keeping thousands of children/people in cages is a-OK, you think those should be tolerated?
If you want to understand how I think about it, cf. the draft rules on "controversial or offensive topics" which I suggested in this thread. If you want to understand my reasoning, I could try to explain it more but I don't want to derail this thread that much right now. Maybe see here.

To your specific questions: calling "brown people from ****hole countries" evil would have fallen afoul of the third bullet point and thus not be tolerated. So might language referring to other immigrants, depending on the specifics. But I'd not forbid literally any posting of support for Trump's immigration policies -- including family separation -- offensive though I find those policies.
04-01-2019 , 07:38 PM
I thought one of the reasons we hate Hannity is he has a large influence. I mean, if Hannity is the #1 thought leader/influencer for the party in power, that makes his views mainstream. A forum that enjoys dunking on Never Trumpers who nevertheless did bad **** should understand that.

What you're really asking for is the rightmost quartile of the political spectrum to be excluded. Which might be a good idea, they believe a lot of terrible things. But I understand why a mainstream conservative like Mason wouldn't go for that.
04-01-2019 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
I thought one of the reasons we hate Hannity is he has a large influence. I mean, if Hannity is the #1 thought leader/influencer for the party in power, that makes his views mainstream. A forum that enjoys dunking on Never Trumpers who nevertheless did bad **** should understand that.

What you're really asking for is the rightmost quartile of the political spectrum to be excluded. Which might be a good idea, they believe a lot of terrible things. But I understand why a mainstream conservative like Mason wouldn't go for that.
This is all well and good, but, once again, Augie is spouting views that would get Hannity in trouble if he voiced them on air.
04-01-2019 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
his only interest is to troll people on the left. He says he wants to talk about politics, but in reality he just wants to post and have an audience for his trolling.
So augie is just like Hannity, in other words.
04-01-2019 , 07:55 PM
JFC, at least a third of WWII Germans loved Nazis. Get the **** out with this bull****.
04-01-2019 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
AM radio extremism isn't mainstream unless you roll with white supremacists bro

why do you think they keep coming out the woodwork every time you do some **** like this? you've literally had to close down multiple forums
No, It represents the way half the country thinks, and I now suspect with the "No Trump Russia Collusion" an the super strong economy, it'll grow.

Mason
04-01-2019 , 07:57 PM
It's almost like many mainstream conservative views have gone off the ****ing deep end. If you want to associate your business with that, go for it.

      
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