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04-04-2019 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Of the thousands of issues in the last 200 years where people were approximately split down the middle there have been only perhaps a few dozen where one side was so obviously wrong that even WITHOUT the benefit of hindsight they should have realized it. (But didn't because of extreme stupidity, evilness or psychological issues.) You mentioned two of them. I would add the issue of whether Jesus Christ is the son of God.

But they were the rare exceptions. Most of these thousands of issues have been settled and usually the outcome now seems clearcut. But at the time there wasn't one side that was clearly right. At the time it seemed like both sides had reasonable arguments.(eg gay marriage).

Thus two things:

If there is presently an issue where the two sides are about equal the statistics from the past would lead you to conclude not only that the jury is still out but also that the side that eventually loses cannot be accused of being ridiculously dumb or evil for taking the losing side. So if you are a media company there is nothing wrong with having an algorithm that automatically presents both sides since the slam dunk issues that still somehow split populations can be expected to be rare.

If you hold the media company to a higher standard and expect them to carefully examine the 50-50 issues and to make sure that none of them are as obviously one sided as the Hitler, Slavery, Omnipotent Jesus, (and if they are to disallow the absurd side) issues you have to be able come very close to PROVING that a present day issue is that obviously clearcut. Its not good enough to show that they are merely PROBABLY wrong.
Brother, your ego is not your amigo.
04-04-2019 , 08:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
"Whore" is toxic and we should all stop using it. There are better and more precise ways to express ourselves.
Yeah like she ratchet.
04-04-2019 , 10:07 AM
Why do half the threads in Tapatalk have an anti abortion image showing?
04-04-2019 , 11:03 AM
Because your daughter has been googling on your machine, i would imagine
04-04-2019 , 11:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisV
. (snip). . people don't see "whore" in the same category, I guess because it has an objective meaning in addition to being a pejorative.
Ty CV, this post helped me.

It's not a word I use. Except 1 particular phrase: media or fame whore. I use it for men (Mr President) and women (Mss Kardashian) . Does 'w' as a gendered insult make it impossible to be implemented in this form? crossnerd argues no.
If so, is there a better insult?
04-04-2019 , 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Of the thousands of issues in the last 200 years where people were approximately split down the middle there have been only perhaps a few dozen where one side was so obviously wrong that even WITHOUT the benefit of hindsight they should have realized it. (But didn't because of extreme stupidity, evilness or psychological issues.) You mentioned two of them. I would add the issue of whether Jesus Christ is the son of God.

But they were the rare exceptions. Most of these thousands of issues have been settled and usually the outcome now seems clearcut. But at the time there wasn't one side that was clearly right. At the time it seemed like both sides had reasonable arguments.(eg gay marriage).

Thus two things:

If there is presently an issue where the two sides are about equal the statistics from the past would lead you to conclude not only that the jury is still out but also that the side that eventually loses cannot be accused of being ridiculously dumb or evil for taking the losing side. So if you are a media company there is nothing wrong with having an algorithm that automatically presents both sides since the slam dunk issues that still somehow split populations can be expected to be rare.

If you hold the media company to a higher standard and expect them to carefully examine the 50-50 issues and to make sure that none of them are as obviously one sided as the Hitler, Slavery, Omnipotent Jesus, (and if they are to disallow the absurd side) issues you have to be able come very close to PROVING that a present day issue is that obviously clearcut. Its not good enough to show that they are merely PROBABLY wrong.
Has there been a single issue over the past 200 years that conservatives have ended up on the right side of?

Many of the issues they are fighting tooth and nail over today have already been settled before! Whether in America's own past (immigration, civil rights) or in other countries (healthcare, gun control).

Your gay marriage example is laughable and hopefully is just trolling.
04-04-2019 , 11:48 AM
dontcha know? conservatives were on the side of freeing the slaves and following mlk jr and bringing civil rights.
04-04-2019 , 12:01 PM
Teenager charged with 73 instances of Swatting.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...watting-calls/
04-04-2019 , 12:18 PM
Got a couple of people demodding themselves: gregorio and kerowo due to the reds essentially trolling their own forums.

Who else left?
04-04-2019 , 01:06 PM
1. Many mods are upset and whoknows what will happen. I suppose some mods (ahem) and politics regs will cut back their participation in this forum and throughout 2+2.

2. You can probably add tomd to the list, though he can/does speak for himself around here (and demodded himself long before the current snafus).

3. It is not "essentially" trolling. It is out and out trolling. Blatant and open trolling. Besides the obvious joy it brings, I do not discount the possibility that it is an avenue that leads to shutting down this forum in the near future.
04-04-2019 , 01:14 PM
A mod linking Breitbart (stormfront light), nice. Think i will stay out of the playground.
04-04-2019 , 01:15 PM
It is sad that not only are moderators on the site taken for granted but they can’t even be treated with respect by management. It is literally the bare minimum they can do, but they don’t just refuse to treat their moderators with respect and consideration, they treat them with open disdain.


It is gross.
04-04-2019 , 01:18 PM
Bump from two weeks ago:

Quote:
Originally Posted by goofyballer
This should be obvious, but remember that augie's only desire in making that thread is to troll you all and make you mad. It's up to you how much attention you give him and whether you let him succeed.
Huehuecoyotl
batair
master3004
well named
eyebooger
Max Cut
chezlaw
04-04-2019 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
A mod linking Breitbart (stormfront light), nice.
Sorry, half the country considers them a legitimate news source, therefore they are.
04-04-2019 , 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .Alex.
Has there been a single issue over the past 200 years that conservatives have ended up on the right side of?

Many of the issues they are fighting tooth and nail over today have already been settled before! Whether in America's own past (immigration, civil rights) or in other countries (healthcare, gun control).

Your gay marriage example is laughable and hopefully is just trolling.
this is my go to shut down argument with all my conservative friends. it gets them mega flustered. they either answer with supreme court cases that were decided by conservative justices or just say "family values" or right now.

my super catholic friend believes that society would literally fall to incest and bestiality without the morality of the bible being strongly held.
04-04-2019 , 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slighted
this is my go to shut down argument with all my conservative friends. it gets them mega flustered. they either answer with supreme court cases that were decided by conservative justices or just say "family values" or right now.

my super catholic friend believes that society would literally fall to incest and bestiality without the morality of the bible being strongly held.
In fairness, there are many Catholics that seem to turn to the bible to keep them from molesting children as evidenced by the failures that come to light. Maybe some think it is the answer to those other compulsions, also? Perhaps your friend is one of those.
04-04-2019 , 01:53 PM
Mat, I see augie has changed his avatar. I assume this is a result of your pm asking him for an explanation. Did he defend the avatar? Admit it was racist, or what?
04-04-2019 , 02:07 PM
He probably gave in immediately because Mat has already given him everything he wants and there's no reason to rock the boat
04-04-2019 , 02:11 PM
wow bezos' wife is getting 36 billion in the divorce

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ife-mackenzie/
04-04-2019 , 02:13 PM
04-04-2019 , 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
"Whore" is toxic and we should all stop using it. There are better and more precise ways to express ourselves.
You guys still don't get it, or why I was so angry.

"Whore" is sexist language, and while there was some extremely meager pushback to it before I came in myself, there were many more '+1' and 'this guy gets it's. The mods saw the sexist language. Nobody was penalized for it.

Somebody explain to me why racist, homophobic, islamophobic, antisemitic, transphobic, and hate language are all banned, but overt sexist language like calling a woman a "spoiled whore" and wishing her misery for it is totally fine re forum rules.

You all invited me to post here. So yes, I yell at all of you when I see language like that being used after you all espoused such "woke" agendas. You've apparently forgotten about your women posters.

Maybe it wasn't jarring for you all to read someone post a really vile sexist post calling the first lady a gold digging whore, but it was super jarring for me. Its an unnecessary and painful throwback to all the times sexist language has been used against myself, my friends, all women. I doubt many of you have been called sluts, or whores, or golddiggers in the way women have. It hurts.

This argument, for me, has nothing really to do with Melania Trump. I don't have anything poitive to say about her. This argument is about YOU all and how you're using this sexist language, and how angry it makes me that you see some sort of difference between it and other harmful language in that the f-word and the n-word etc are censored and would be punished, but calling women whores isn't.

AND if I flip out over that language, that hurts me, I'll be banned but not the person who used it.

Don't just all agree to not use the word here. Ban sexist language from this forum. Add "whore" to the censored list, and treat women with the same respect and sensitivity and protection that you're currently giving every other group here.

If I need to eat another ban for offending your collective male fragility, thats fine.
04-04-2019 , 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
wow bezos' wife is getting 36 billion in the divorce

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ife-mackenzie/
Why is this not taxable? They can both remarry and get an extra $22 million of estate tax exemption, in addition to basic principles of fairness.
04-04-2019 , 02:24 PM
CN,

You’re an attention...seeker.

Also, you were hammered right?
04-04-2019 , 02:28 PM
Also, re the politics/augie thing- I have an argument.

Facebook has already banned white nationalism and separatism on its platform.

Its being predicted that Twitter, Youtube, and Amazon will soon follow.

Does this forum want to be ahead or behind that curve? *shrug*
04-04-2019 , 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dth123451
CN,

You’re an attention...seeker.

Also, you were hammered right?
I'd had some wine.

You're a sexist.

      
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