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09-24-2018 , 06:41 AM
INNOCENT black people held against their will and forced to work for no money, living in horrific inhuman conditions? If it's what you say I love it!

St Louis' workhouse denounced as a modern-day debtors' prison

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Inez Bordeaux was at times left broke, homeless, and living in a halfway house over the years of unpleasant interactions with the criminal justice system in St Louis, Missouri. But the only time she ever felt hopeless was during the month she was incarcerated in the city’s infamous “workhouse” jail in 2016.
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A registered nurse and mother of four, Bordeaux was being held in the workhouse on a technical probation violation. Like 98% of inmates there, she was legally innocent but Bordeaux was being detained pre-trial because she couldn’t afford her $25,000 bail.

She describes the rest of her month in the workhouse as full of black mold, rats and blocked toilets churning up fetid waste. She was denied any outdoors time and basic feminine hygiene products.
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Bordeaux was lucky to get out after just a month: the average stay in the St Louis workhouse is more than 190 days.
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Of those incarcerated in the St Louis workhouse, 90% are black, despite the fact that less than 50% of the city is black.
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The #closetheworkhouse campaign minces no words and calls the facility a debtors’ prison, noting that most inmates are presumed innocent and would be free to leave but for unaffordable bail amounts. The median bail in St Louis is $25,000, roughly the same as the city’s per-capita annual income – simply out of reach for most.
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But still, city officials try to spin the poverty angle back to their side in defense of the workhouse. “Honestly, this place has been a kind-of rescue for many people,” said Harry. Where else can you get three meals, healthcare, dental, AC in the summer, heating in the winter? We give some of these people structure.”
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Her story of how she wound up in the workhouse is typical. In 2011 Bordeaux was pulled over, as black drivers in Missouri frequently are, and informed that there was a warrant out for her arrest for a larceny. She was miffed: “I had no idea what I had stolen.”


Prosecutors later informed her that the charges stemmed from an overpayment of unemployment benefits. If she went to court and lost, Bordeaux might not only have been looking at prison time, she would have lost her job too. “I couldn’t still be a nurse and have a felony charge,” Bordeaux said, so she took a plea agreement

Last edited by tomdemaine; 09-24-2018 at 06:57 AM.
09-24-2018 , 08:16 AM
A couple years ago I watched a video of a black psychologist's commentary on race in America. I don't remember much from it other than him saying America is racism.

The first time I heard it, it sounded so absurd to me. To just go bluntly to the point and conclude it as that. As if that's all this country is. I didn't necessarily disagree completely with him, but it just felt wrong and inaccurate for that to be my own view. That is neither here nor there, though...

Regardless of where this guy and I stand on his views, for every day that goes by they seem less and less absurd, perhaps not even absurd at all.
09-24-2018 , 08:21 AM
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But still, city officials try to spin the poverty angle back to their side in defense of the workhouse. “Honestly, this place has been a kind-of rescue for many people,” said Harry. Where else can you get three meals, healthcare, dental, AC in the summer, heating in the winter? We give some of these people structure.”


These city officals just moved way up in the guillotine rankings.
09-24-2018 , 08:46 AM
$25k bail, how much in cash, $2.5k ?
09-24-2018 , 09:06 AM
I found the video. It's about 45 minutes long and I found what he had to say interesting. If anyone takes the time to watch it, I'd appreciate their thoughts on it.
09-24-2018 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
$25k bail, how much in cash, $2.5k ?
Don't have any knowledge of the system, but from google it seems 10% is the usual fee for a bond. That is non refundable (there are fees on top too), and, in addition, you often need someone else agreeing to owe the whole amount if you're a no show.
09-24-2018 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TeflonDawg
A couple years ago I watched a video of a black psychologist's commentary on race in America. I don't remember much from it other than him saying America is racism.

The first time I heard it, it sounded so absurd to me. To just go bluntly to the point and conclude it as that. As if that's all this country is. I didn't necessarily disagree completely with him, but it just felt wrong and inaccurate for that to be my own view. That is neither here nor there, though...

Regardless of where this guy and I stand on his views, for every day that goes by they seem less and less absurd, perhaps not even absurd at all.
America is racism isn't a bad lens with which to view our country and history.

Slavery is fundamentally at odds with our constitution and declaration of independence. Other contemporary societies also had slavery, but had no fundamental ideas of inalienable rights, all men created equal, etc. In most places, slavery was an economic condition; however, in the US, where it so obviously contradicted our founding principles, it instead had to be justified on the grounds that slaves weren't actually human.

Each step along the way towards "equal rights", it was always a "yeah, but" compromise. We almost annihilated our country fighting a war to end slavery, but de jure discrimination, lynchings, and terror were still fine. Jim Crow ended, but the confederate flag is history and proud tradition, and why did it take black people so long to stand up and ask for equality anyways?! America has never had to confront that the founding of our country was a clear, unjustifiable contradiction. How absurd is it that we associate July 4, 1776 with freedom? It only makes sense to revere that if you blind yourself to the absurdity of what the founding fathers wrote in light of the slaves their new country held.

We were never able to successfully confront this contradiction; we'll be haunted by it forevermore.
09-24-2018 , 10:22 AM
I don't give to many charities and non-profits--something I have been trying to change, though it's hard being up to my ass in debt. But one I have made an effort to support is https://bailproject.org/
09-24-2018 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
just donated $57 to take them from $89943 to 90k.

      
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