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Old 04-22-2017, 02:37 AM   #176
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NK is in a tough spot. They give up nuclear weapons, they are done, at least the leadership. They keep the nuclear weapons and we continue to starve them.

I don't see them giving them up. Their identity. Keeps them relevant. A pre-emptive strike is scary. NK is definitely prepared for that and I am sure they have a secret nuclear weapon somewhere that they will use. It could be world-altering if they do hit a major city. Do we then go in and obliterate the entire country in response? It isn't like you can use the land. Probably be barren for 50 years.

I think you have to use diplomacy whatever that means.


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Old 04-22-2017, 04:51 AM   #177
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The countries that currently have nuclear weapons telling other countries they can't have nuclear weapons would be like the biggest school bullied allowed to hassle anyone.

In a world where everyone is an aggressor or in danger of being attacked, it would seem logical that you try to build a nuclear weapon. Countries haven't yet attached a country that has them. Known that Israel and South Africa have them.
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Old 04-22-2017, 09:20 AM   #178
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Map of nuclear-armed states of the world.
NPT-designated nuclear weapon states (China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States)
Other states with nuclear weapons (India, North Korea, Pakistan)
Other states presumed to have nuclear weapons (Israel)
NATO nuclear weapons sharing states (Belgium, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Turkey)
States formerly possessing nuclear weapons (Belarus, Kazakhstan, South Africa, Ukraine)
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Old 04-22-2017, 09:29 AM   #179
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Old 04-23-2017, 02:25 PM   #180
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North Korea is "ready to sink" a US aircraft carrier heading for the peninsula, state media have said.

A commentary in the Rodong Sinmun newspaper warned that the USS Carl Vinson could be sunk "with a single strike".

A battle group headed by the Vinson is expected off the peninsula this week.

It was despatched by President Donald Trump amid a warning that US "strategic patience" over the North's nuclear ambitions had come to an end.
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Old 04-23-2017, 08:24 PM   #181
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I'll believe their bull**** threats when I see it. Don't get me wrong KJI is a psycho but I can't believe he's that stupid to basically declare war on the US / risk the US declaring war on NK.
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:30 PM   #182
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Old 04-23-2017, 09:37 PM   #183
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lol sick catch.
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Old 04-23-2017, 11:47 PM   #184
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lol touche. Should've just said "this gentleman" obv
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:07 AM   #185
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So the 25th is when we're maybe expecting a nuclear test. Pence was supposed to be in Hawaii that day, but, uh...

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Old 04-24-2017, 11:04 AM   #186
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It's not that easy. The ocean is a big place and knowing where a single ship is sailing is no easy task. Even with a nuclear tipped missile.

It would be a little easier if they are getting intelligence from Chinese spy satellites, but they may not be. Plus the Navy has tracks on all the satellites so they know when they're passing and usually alter course to mask their true positions. The US is really good at that kind of stuff.
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Old 04-24-2017, 12:52 PM   #187
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It's not that easy. The ocean is a big place and knowing where a single ship is sailing is no easy task. Even with a nuclear tipped missile.

It would be a little easier if they are getting intelligence from Chinese spy satellites, but they may not be. Plus the Navy has tracks on all the satellites so they know when they're passing and usually alter course to mask their true positions. The US is really good at that kind of stuff.
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Old 04-24-2017, 02:32 PM   #188
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It's not that easy. The ocean is a big place and knowing where a single ship is sailing is no easy task.
This is gonna blow your mind.

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Old 04-24-2017, 03:58 PM   #189
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The entire Senate has been invited to the White House on Wednesday for a meeting about North Korea. News reports say it's a rare occurrence.

Does this mean Trump could be looking for a war declaration? Maybe the threat of sinking Carl Vinson and detaining of a US citizen and talk of a using a hydrogen bomb against us were enough to push him over the edge.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:04 PM   #190
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If they go to a war footing in a hostile area they're not going to advertise their position. We can bet what you like on that.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:44 PM   #191
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Also the Carl Vinson on that map is shown to be in port in San Diego right now and not somewhere between Indonesia and Korea, so I'm not sure how accurate that information is anyways.
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:54 PM   #192
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The entire Senate has been invited to the White House on Wednesday for a meeting about North Korea. News reports say it's a rare occurrence.

Does this mean Trump could be looking for a war declaration? Maybe the threat of sinking Carl Vinson and detaining of a US citizen and talk of a using a hydrogen bomb against us were enough to push him over the edge.
100% he's gonna try to sell them all on blasting NK. We have to and all that bull**** everybody else used on their stupid wars.

I don't believe jong un is crazy enough to strike USA or SK or whoever either unless he feels cornered, and that's what trump is doing.
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Old 04-24-2017, 05:03 PM   #193
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Also the Carl Vinson on that map is shown to be in port in San Diego right now and not somewhere between Indonesia and Korea, so I'm not sure how accurate that information is anyways.
The date on that is 2016.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:25 AM   #194
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It is very dangerous to fight with North Korea!
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:08 AM   #195
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Wtf is going on????

I thought there'd be more concern itt with the sabre rattling considering how unstable/unpredictable Trump is.
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:51 AM   #196
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A lot of us are concerned. We were concerned way back before November that electing this maniac would be a terrible idea, and we tried to tell people. What can we do now but protest?
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:54 AM   #197
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Start doing it right then....Maybe begin by shutting **** down all over the country, get a few milion people outside his front door and stay there for more than 3 hours.

Phone calls and strongly worded emails aren't cutting it.
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:52 AM   #198
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Last post wasn't aimed at you personally Einbert, just I don't really see much if any protesting going on.
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Old 04-26-2017, 10:12 AM   #199
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Last post wasn't aimed at you personally Einbert, just I don't really see much if any protesting going on.
You're not paying attention then.

The problem is twofold: (1) Republicans have all the chips and the vast majority are putting party in front of country and (2) the person sitting in the Oval Office is likely a treasonous criminal who also happens to have mental health issues and who is putting company in front of country.

But other than that, nothing to see here ... move along now.
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Old 04-26-2017, 12:02 PM   #200
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Wtf is going on????

I thought there'd be more concern itt with the sabre rattling considering how unstable/unpredictable Trump is.
I can't speak for everyone, but some of us are waiting with baited breath for this NK meeting at the White House today. Trump "may pop in" according to reports, and we'll see if he's looking for a war declaration if he does. Nobody can figure out why 100 Senators were invited to listen to 4 speakers when it's so much easier for the 4 speakers to just visit Capitol Hill.
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