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Old 04-15-2017, 08:49 PM   #76
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Alternatively, there is a third scenario in which the United States continues down the path of moral decline and global belligerency. The U.S. may do a nuclear first strike on North Korea as a Guernica like test run for a future existential conflict, as military doctrine abandons mutually assured destruction and embraces nuclear warfare and missile defense.
I'm beginning to wonder if the US is any better than ISIS.

It would be "interesting" to observe the reaction of US allies to a nuclear strike without provocation.
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Old 04-15-2017, 08:59 PM   #77
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Apparently the President's comment is to not comment.
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:31 PM   #78
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trump dgaf if pence dies in the seoul nuke, people keep calling him dumb, but he gets **** like this better than most on 2p2 would.
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Old 04-15-2017, 09:46 PM   #79
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Yank the 'Fearless Girl' imo. (or just face her in the same direction ... or whatever really idgaf I just thought this was a decent read :x)

Nice Take.
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Old 04-15-2017, 10:01 PM   #80
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Nice Thread for this.
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:40 AM   #81
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Yank the 'Fearless Girl' imo. (or just face her in the same direction ... or whatever really idgaf I just thought this was a decent read :x)

Nice Take.
It is an interesting argument.

I think the "fearless girl" statue is a fine work of art as a standalone piece. It doesn't make much sense in its current context.

I dislike the bull for the reason that it promotes irrational exuberance and aggression in an economic field where those are the last things you want. You want a real counter to the original artwork then make a Bear twice the size of the bull about to savage it, to remind the traders what happens when you make stupid bets on the basis of too much testosterone.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:22 AM   #82
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Trump was just briefed. China might become a currency manipulator again.
Yep he reads this forum and replies on Twitter.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:31 AM   #83
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Today was a good day, and I did not even have to bomb the NK.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:42 AM   #84
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Yep he reads this forum and replies on Twitter.
Not Koreancy Manipulators Mr President
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Old 04-16-2017, 12:59 PM   #85
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Check out this wild post from reddit

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Old 04-16-2017, 01:12 PM   #86
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I think the "fearless girl" statue is a fine work of art as a standalone piece. It doesn't make much sense in its current context.
It makes perfect sense to me. She's standing up against all the forces of unchecked masculinity which still rule our world. Look at the guy who just got elected, an incompetent pussygrabber reality TV show host who beat out of the most qualified candidates ever. In the context of the world we live in, I believe the fearless girl represents the energy and ferocity it takes to resist such a world on a daily basis. She is confronted by faceless, systemic forces that are far more powerful than she is, but she stands tall and proud and faces them directly. It's a great message and I say it should stay up. Apparently New York agrees with me.

I do believe it speaks to the fragility and vulnerability of supposed "manly men" that people feel the need to attack this image and try to get it taken down. Even the very idea of a feminine image such as the girl standing alongside the charging bull gives many men a fleeting shock of horror, it would seem. And that's all the more reason the girl needs to stay up. Hey look, the statue has already started a great conversation about toxic masculinity. Well, that's another good reason for it to stay up.
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Is Vic Mackey's Strike Team still alone in the region?

Can't be certain, but I think I heard the news just say that another group was sent over there in response to the failed missile attempt.

EDIT: When I say "alone", I'm obv not counting hidden subs or troops, planes, etc. in SK, Japan or Guam.
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Old 04-16-2017, 02:54 PM   #88
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The best candidate ever lost to the worst candidate ever. Does not compute.

Hillary couldn't even beat Trump, as horrible and incompetent and disliked as he is. That should tell you something.
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Old 04-16-2017, 03:10 PM   #89
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The best candidate ever lost to the worst candidate ever. Does not compute.

Hillary couldn't even beat Trump, as horrible and incompetent and disliked as he is. That should tell you something.
Most qualified then. I'm not a huge Clinton fan from a personality perspective but I can't think of a single candidate possibly ever that had as much experience.
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Most qualified then. I'm not a huge Clinton fan from a personality perspective but I can't think of a single candidate possibly ever that had as much experience.
I play poker with a guy in his 70's who's been playing for 50 years. Guess what. He still sucks.

Experience just means you've been around a long time. I doesn't have to mean you're good at something, or "qualified" (although it may). She thought she should be president because she deserved it, and couldn't be bothered to campaign. And she's a horse**** politician. (Note that I voted for her, or more properly against Trump - but she richly deserved to lose that election)

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That's very folksy-sounding and all, but also very dumb. Her decades of actual experience is government did make her far more qualified and prepared than the dumpster fire we have now. The need for people to bash her months after the election, and in the middle of the Orange Monster no less, really shows our collective sexism and it's something that we need to be honest about as a country if we want to move forward.
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That's very folksy-sounding and all, but also very dumb. Her decades of actual experience is government did make her far more qualified and prepared than the dumpster fire we have now. The need for people to bash her months after the election, and in the middle of the Orange Monster no less, really shows our collective sexism and it's something that we need to be honest about as a country if we want to move forward.
Shut up already. Your candidate was a failure because she sucks at what she was trying to do and people hated her. Hijacking feminism to make excuses for your failed candidate is a really bad look.
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Old 04-16-2017, 03:51 PM   #93
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If Hillary had brought Refugees over like she wanted to we'd be in a huge crisis right now. Trump isn't perfect, but this move in NK has pros and cons. It's very risky and there are ways it can pay off and ways it can **** up for sure.
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"The need for people to bash her months after the election, "

Reading comprehension for the win. I said she's a horse**** politician, and that she couldn't be bothered to campaign. It has nothing to do with her being a woman. I don't think she would have been a particularly stellar president, but whatever. But if you want to pretend she lost even though she's the best politician EVER and it's because of sexism, rather than her being an amazingly unappealing, smarmy, self satisfied turd of a candidate.....have at it, sport.

BTW, if it makes you feel better, the GOP is equally able to prop up a horrible candidate and blow an easily winnable election - they did it here when they could have run a goddam stuffed goat and beat Harry Reid a few years ago, and they ran Sharron Angle, who makes Donald Trump look like ****ing Abraham Lincoln.

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Shut up already. Your candidate was a failure because she sucks at what she was trying to do and people hated her. Hijacking feminism to make excuses for your failed candidate is a really bad look.
And ignoring the role her sex had in why people hated her and continue to hate her is also not a great look.

Probably not even in the top 5 reasons why she lost but it certainly didn't help.
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If Hillary had brought Refugees over like she wanted to we'd be in a huge crisis right now. Trump isn't perfect, but this move in NK has pros and cons. It's very risky and there are ways it can pay off and ways it can **** up for sure.
Yeah because the refugees are the real problem right? We were taking in refugees under Obama, a tiny number to be sure, but we were taking them in, and they didn't lead to any huge downfall of the country. But people like you want to demonize the refugees, the people that are literally being victimized by ISIS and other groups. Then you want to bomb the hell out of their home countries. It's like you don't even think they are human, but just problems that need to be exterminated.

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And ignoring the role her sex had in why people hated her and continue to hate her is also not a great look.

Probably not even in the top 5 reasons why she lost but it certainly didn't help.
The last 3 presidents to get elected: one couldn't speak English, one was a black man, and one was a manchild with no political experience. Clearly, voters are willing to overlook things they might consider a weakness and vote for somebody outside the box. So your theory is bull**** and more excuse making.
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she couldn't be bothered to campaign.
ABC: Hillary Clinton's and Donald Trump's Campaigns by the Numbers
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RALLIES/SPEECHES HELD (IN 2016):
CLINTON: 278+
TRUMP: 302
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why the hell is anyone still talking about hillary? ffs shut up
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Old 04-16-2017, 05:30 PM   #100
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I really hope they don't seal Team 6 Kim Jong Un. I think it would be really cool to interview him and hear what he actually believes about the world.
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