I'd just like to see something creative. Or just off the mofo. That would be illegal under US law, but s. korea could probably do it. Maybe his plane could disappear next time he flys somewhere. Or bribe an insider. Or sneak in ms. S. Korea 2018 and have her poison him. US or Korea has to have various sneaky plans we don't know. Trump hasn't accidentally tweeted them publicly, so maybe he hasn't been briefed.

US of A is a pussy..if they want to stop N.Korea,go ahead and nuke them,too much talk no action..I am sure if one of the N.Korea nuke hit US of A soil,they considered a winner 😁

Talk about selective quotation. You should get a job as a reporter.

About what, selective quotation? I'm no reporter. Never even applied for a job as one.

What I can't figure out is why Trump isn't just declaring it Obama's fault for doing nothing about North Korea, and walking away with his arms folded.

Well put. We are just inflaming the situation perhaps. I am not sure every other country in the region appreciates are interference. We really are the world's self-anointed police force. We are a train-wreck internally but find ourselves involved over and over in high-risk situations that we may not be best suited.

The missile test was "a 4th of July gift for the Yankees."

And "a slap to the face of the American bastards" apparently.

C4 news translating NK comical Ali.

Lol

Even when David's a deformed, malignant tyrant there's still something appealing about his defiance when he abuses Goliath.

The made the top of the front page of Wall Street Journal: "North Korea Missile Tensions Rise"

NK is very PR savvy.

The one strange thing is when the US reported this, they said it was a mobile launch. NK video of it shows a fixed ground launch.

Just had a look at the video, I haven't the faintest idea but it seems possible that mobile simply means "can be moved", as opposed to "off the back of a lorry". That it was off the ground might not mean the apparatus couldn't be moved somewhere else, with whatever the appropriate amount of fuss is.

North Korea finds a way to continue staying relevant. They may be able to send a nuclear weapon to the continental US.

I don't know the answer here nor does anyone really. Truly frightening unknowns.


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They're forcing our hand and China knows it. That's why they're realigning their troops along the border. I think yesterday's launch is the last we'll let go. We need to send a clear verbal message that if they launch another missile into the territorial waters of one of our allies, it will be considered an act of war and will be answered as such.

Nobody wants war but it is sometimes necessary when a sociopath determined to nuke the US is lobbing missiles at our allies. There are no good options here but we need to act before he actually does send a nuclear missile somewhere. Beef up our missile defenses near Seoul and let's send in a fleet of drones and cruise missiles to take him, his factories, and their weapon stockpiles out.

attacking NK pre-emptively is the best way to ensure that he does lob a nuclear missile at one of our allies

Lol he is crazy but not stupid. I'm sure he knows that lobbing a nuke at someone will result in the complete and utter destruction of his regime (and country).

Missiles isn't the biggest risk to Seoul either, it's artillery. Good luck stopping that.

a pre-emptive attack from usa#1 would be probably the biggest way to make him fear being deposed. nothing stopping him from going scorched earth on at least SK at that point- he would effectively have nothing to lose, he doesn't give a **** about his people/citizens, and he is a confirmed paranoid psychopath

I'm certainly not sure about Kim Jung-Un's motivations, but it seems that he likes power, adoration and luxury. Like Trump, he needs an enemy to point to and we are it. He's a threat for sure, and taking him out, potentially at a catastrophic cost is a possibility, but I'm like 90% sure we could get restrictions and inspections on NK's weapons programs with more carrot and less stick. The US and SK have been very provocative in military testing and war games. I think we could back off some air craft carriers and move in some inspectors, but I'm afraid we have some Douglass MacArthurs and a Potus who loves DM who are inclined to see war as a better option.

So a better solution is........what, exactly? Sit idly by with our fingers crossed that the sociopath doesn't incinerate millions of people in the blink of an eye like he says he will? There are no good solutions but trying to call the bluff of a mad man with millions of lives on the line doesn't sound like the best choice. There will come a point where we will have to strike and when we do, we should target Un and his highest ranking officials while striking his military complex in the ensuing leaderless chaos. Do that with bolstered defenses and we'll have a shot at taking them down while sustaining minimal damage to ourselves and our allies.

Which is why we haven't done it. The problem is that they become more and more dangerous and perhaps we will wish we had.

Just one nuclear bomb would be a disaster. We know that. NK knows that. That is why there is a stalemate and also why the world isn't in total freak out mode despite his claim that he wants to nuke America. And supposedly they are getting extremely close to having that capability. Their tests are for real and confirmed by many countries.

I don't think there is a chance that they give them up their weapon program. No matter what the carrot is. They wouldn't trust us to fulfill whatever commitments we make nor do I blame them.

We have gone as far as we can with trying to freeze them economically. We weren't prepared to go against a leader who doesn't care if citizens starve. Cost of doing business.

"How to Deal With North Korea"

There are no good options. But some are worse than others.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-earth/528717/

Simple question:

What percentage of Americans would be OK with 100,000 SOUTH Koreans dying if it reduced the chances of an American city being nuked from 2% to .1%?

100

You picked the right amount of deaths to make it interesting. We shrug off 10k deaths. We only shrug off 100k deaths in Africa or the Middle East, but not South Koreans. They have pretty women who can golf really well.

I'll go 37% only because it seems to be a reoccurring sociopath number in opinion polls that seem to be down for anything except the GOP health care plan. That's how bad that plan was. It divided the insane 37%. I think 37% would approve of preemptive nuclear strike if our chances of getting hit were 0.

Your nuke percentages for us are too low for the general public. Poker players have felt the pain of 2% too frequently. The masses would think of 2% as Pick 3 straight odds rather than something that occurs 7 times in a calendar year. Up it to 30%, you get 80% approval. All but the bloodiest of bleeding hearts.

Obviously my unscientific gut feeling on the American psyche.

Great question. Vast majority.