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Originally Posted by batair
No ideas other then the thing you dont seem to like in your post which is more "negotiations" and putting pressure on them and others who can pressure them. Same old same old.
I am advocating more pressure and I believe since China does 90% of NK's trade and are their comrade in arms, China seems best equiped to exert maximum leverage SHOULD THEY CARE TO AND DEEM IT AS IN THEIR BEST NATIONAL INTEREST. Which is why I believe Trump's "dick swiging" plays into making China actually believe we WOULD launch a first strike of some capacity. I am quite sure they don't want EMP weapons lighting up near their borders which would absolutely be the opening salvo of any attack on NK.
I prefer "negotiations" any time but there have been talks since 1953, since 1994 and the Noble Peace Prize winner had 8 long year to "negotiate". I assume he was interested in the protection of the American homeland and since He didn't have much success negotiating, I'm having difficulty seeing how "negotiating" with NK virtually on the 6 inch line readying to punch it over the goal line in the next 6 months will lead anywhere without a huge change in the status quo. I believe a motivated China is the best avenue to stopping NK at this time.
NK is now opening superficial talks with the south which certainly looks all the part of the Dean Smith 4 Corner Offense designed to run out the clock til they perfect their re-entry vehicle and any other technical difficulties they might have to be a substantive truly existential threat to the US mainland. I think you fellows are very Pollyannish if you think now on the 6 inch line they are serious about negotiating.
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Originally Posted by batair
They have nukes and will have some that can hit us it looks like and it does not seem anything is going to stop them short of a war. So it looks like the choice is war or a nuclear armed NK which can hit us. The second one seems better.
I really don't agree. I believe China CAN intervene if they care to. NK really has no need for nukes. They have 20,000,000 SK hostages under artillery range conventionally and NO American president can Nuke NK without NK being an existential threat to the American homeland. If the Kim family stays in their box we have absolutely no concern with them. They aren't strong enough to run down the peninsula with 30,000 plus US military "hostages" there guaranteeing the US joining SK in the case of invasion from the north.
However... if Kim is interested in "reuniting" the peninsula he has to remove the 30,000 US troop and threatening the American mainland seems the least costly way.
A year from now this scenario becomes a real possibility.