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Alabama Special Election (Roy Moore diddles, GOP thumbs up, Mr. Jones goes to Washington) Alabama Special Election (Roy Moore diddles, GOP thumbs up, Mr. Jones goes to Washington)

11-11-2017 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Why do I seem to be the only one greatly bothered by the fact that major aspects of our lives can hinge on whether, the liberal or conservative Supreme court Justice dies, the liberal or conservative Senate candidate is a pedophile, or the liberal or conservative part of Pennsylvania is hit with a blizzard on election day. I mean even the far less important decisions as to what happens to an all in PLO pot are often smoothed out by dealing it twice. There should be some mechanism to revisit close decisions in the political world as well.
if you were interested in getting the "true result" of attempting democracy in an area, i imagine you'd try to get as many CITIZENS voting as possible. like, maybe keep voting open for TWO days, or THREE days. possibly on the WEEKEND. but for *some reason*, it's tuesday only and polls close at 8pm
11-11-2017 , 05:59 PM
It's a feature, not a bug
11-11-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Vecernicek
Well, I guess I'm saying he'll drop out.

Anyway, now they're floating other ideas:

Of course, IANAL, but this is where this imbroglio is likely to wind up, (i.e. in a court with possibly multiple lawsuits), before it's finally resolved. Doug Jones is suddenly sensing the real possibility of a victory - as long as the December 12th election proceeds as currently scheduled. If the election is postponed for whatever reason, Jones will have a good claim that his [prospective] "victory" was intentionally stolen by the Alabama GOP. (This claim would be strengthened if Jones is leading in the polls when the Governor calls off the election and appoints an interim senator. If that "interim senator" is not Roy Moore, Moore might file a suit!) So calling off the election will almost certainly produce litigation.

If the election proceeds as currently scheduled, Roy Moore "wins" the popular vote, and the election is promptly declared "null and void" by the Secretary of State, we've got lawsuits for sure - from Roy Moore and [probably] Doug Jones as well. So the only way for this to not wind up in court is for Moore to withdraw voluntarily - which he, so far, has vehemently declared he will not do.

Roy Moore appears to love money almost as much as he loves teenage girls. Maybe the Republicans will figure out a way to pay him off - to the tune of millions - in exchange for him agreeing to quietly withdraw from the race and disappear. (One can always hope ...)
11-11-2017 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Canceling the special election is unconscionable.

No ****ing way it stands up in federal court.
Is that th same federal court trump has been packing with the most unqualified candidates our nation has ever seen?

Yeah, I’m sure that’ll stop them.
11-11-2017 , 07:59 PM
2011: Rep. Christopher Lee, R-N.Y., abruptly resigned from the House of Representatives Wednesday afternoon after a report emerged that he had sent flirtatious e-mails, including one with a bare-chested photo of himself, to a woman he met on Craigslist.

2017: party split over sex with kids clam.
11-11-2017 , 08:53 PM
The governor supposedly has extremely broad powers when it comes to special elections. I don't know how broad, but I don't think the people saying "this would never hold up in court" do either.
11-11-2017 , 08:57 PM
The election postponing or cancellation schemes seem pretty likely if

A) Moore stays in

and

B) More corroboration like that woman from his office come out and also he continues to give interview questions like a dude that 100% did it

Hugh Hewitt, a former Never Trump turned true believer(of course) is going hard in the paint for it. Something as simple as Strange resigning and then her reappointing him to restart the clock seems an easy way to get a redo on the primary. It also sets a precedent that will 100% result in people getting killed, but you know, gotta have that 51st vote for tax cuts.
11-11-2017 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
I've said a few times ITT if Bernie was outed as a Pedo I'd sit out the election or vote 3rd party. Even knowing it'd be terrible for our country, no way I could morally vote for a pedophile. Plus if he was a pedophile, he clearly wouldn't be the person of integrity I thought he was, so I'd have to question everything else about him.
All of this. Anybody who would vote for a known pedophile is as morally corrupt as the Republicans.
11-11-2017 , 09:05 PM
11-11-2017 , 09:19 PM
Republicans: Forcing you to have babies so they have something to **** 15 years later
11-11-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
another mega conservative

Goldberg is on a slow journey to realizing what the conservative movement actually consists of in practice rather than theory:

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I am one of those naïve fools who actually believed that the conservatives who often talked the loudest about the supreme importance of character were sincere. The last two years disabused me of that.
11-11-2017 , 10:48 PM
Sarah Jones, as usual, nails it on the head

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There is not a shred of Christian feeling here, certainly not for the women who claimed they suffered from Trump and Moore’s predations. What animates this movement is a sense of persecution; after all, you can’t be part of a faithful remnant unless you are surrounded by enemies. This is such a bedrock belief for some evangelicals that little can change it; the claims of mere women do not suffice.
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This is the upsetting truth: Religious traditions that embrace retrograde beliefs—that female sexuality somehow endangers men, that women should submit to men in the home and in the public sphere—aren’t equipped to deal with accusations of abuse. Whether it happens on the mission field or in the church sanctuary or in a lonely moment with a Christian politician, conservative Christians have often greeted sexual abuse as a cause for outrage when victims speak up.

Silence is a kind of death; it is a wage of sin. And repentance, as everyone knows, only works if you first admit your error. It is much easier to blame the persecutors, to live inside the world you know.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1457...quit-roy-moore
11-11-2017 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Republicans: Forcing you to have babies so they have something to **** 15 years later
Haha, I'm stealing that.
11-11-2017 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Republicans: Forcing you to have babies so they have something to **** 15 years later
Republicans: making babies so that you have something you can give as a gift to your 30 year old buddies.
11-11-2017 , 11:44 PM
By the way, it's probably worth mentioning that Sen. Strange got the seat under circumstances that would have made Blagovich blush with shame. The AL GOP, and the government generally, appears to be some sort of offshoot of a banana republic. Maybe the UN can send some team to get to the bottom of things.
11-11-2017 , 11:55 PM
They're openly defending literal Nazis and pedophiles. I'm sure they will sink lower, but I'm having trouble imagining how it is possible.
11-12-2017 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib
Is that th same federal court trump has been packing with the most unqualified candidates our nation has ever seen?

Yeah, I’m sure that’ll stop them.
Trump Nominee for Federal Judgeship Has Never Tried a Case
A 36-year-old lawyer who has never tried a case and who was unanimously deemed “not qualified” by the American Bar Association has been approved for a lifetime federal district judgeship by the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The lawyer, Brett Talley, is the fourth judicial nominee under President Trump to receive a “not qualified” rating from the bar association and the second to receive the rating unanimously. Since 1989, the association has unanimously rated only two other judicial nominees as not qualified.

The Senate committee’s vote on Thursday to approve Mr. Talley, who graduated from Harvard Law School in 2007 and is a deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department, fell along party lines; Republican members outnumber Democrats on the committee 11 to nine. Mr. Talley will now face a full vote in the Senate. If confirmed, he would serve as a trial judge in his home state of Alabama.
11-12-2017 , 02:09 AM
Ed Sheeran could make it a really great song about taking 14 year olds into the woods and coming out in your tighty whities.
11-12-2017 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The election postponing or cancellation schemes seem pretty likely if

A) Moore stays in

and

B) More corroboration like that woman from his office come out and also he continues to give interview questions like a dude that 100% did it

Hugh Hewitt, a former Never Trump turned true believer(of course) is going hard in the paint for it. Something as simple as Strange resigning and then her reappointing him to restart the clock seems an easy way to get a redo on the primary. It also sets a precedent that will 100% result in people getting killed, but you know, gotta have that 51st vote for tax cuts.
What do you mean by people getting killed?
11-12-2017 , 07:25 AM
Besides the fact that this total assclown hilariously misuses the meme and basically owns himself, the message of this tweet it like the best example of what Fly likes to call "telling on oneself." I mean, talk about an explicit confession that most of what you write is total bull****.



https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/sta...94522844487681
11-12-2017 , 09:49 AM
Dinesh has been reading up on linkedin

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/speak...language-tony/
11-12-2017 , 11:27 AM
11-12-2017 , 12:24 PM
Yea they're definitely going to push back the election. Newest poll shows Jones ahead

11-12-2017 , 02:14 PM
I don't like the chance of courts compelling the election to go forward if necessary or some other result favorable to Dems. If the Gov tries to cancel, all of the machinery for staging the election will rapidly wind down. At that point, the GOP will have logistical and equal protection arguments in court it can not go fordward. IME, courts have found those arguments persuasive.

There isn't much precedent for courts ordering elections to take place. Even if they don't find GOP arguments persuasive, the courts would have to move FAST to get the election back on track.
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
What do you mean by people getting killed?
He means the precedent of subverting elections will lead to civil unrest.

Last edited by iron81; 11-12-2017 at 02:19 PM.
11-12-2017 , 02:29 PM
We already know republicans are fine with elections being cancelled so long as they’re the party in charge, so I doubt deep red Alabama will revolt if they cheat to keep a senate seat in the R column.

Or Georgia.

      
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