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Alabama Special Election (Roy Moore diddles, GOP thumbs up, Mr. Jones goes to Washington) Alabama Special Election (Roy Moore diddles, GOP thumbs up, Mr. Jones goes to Washington)

11-10-2017 , 10:14 AM
Roy Moore at .55-.60 on predict seems like free money sadly.
11-10-2017 , 11:10 AM
The best hot take

Prosecute the women for lying, unless they're telling the truth then prosecute them for not coming forward immediately.

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Henry, R-Hartselle, who represents a portion of Cullman County, said he suspects the timing of the stories told by five women about Moore’s alleged sexual advancements 40 years ago, as told to The Washington Post, are politically motivated as the Dec. 12 special election nears. Moore will face Democrat Doug Jones, a former U.S. attorney.

“The idea that accusations like this would stop his campaign is ludicrous. If this was a habit, like you’ve read with Bill Cosby and millions of dollars paid to settle cases and years of witnesses, that would be one thing,” Henry said. “You cannot tell me there hasn’t been an opportunity through the years to make these accusations with as many times as he’s (Moore) run (for office) and been in the news.

Henry said he believes legal action should be considered against Moore’s accusers, finding their story unbelievable.

“If they believe this man is predatory, they are guilty of allowing him to exist for 40 years. I think someone should prosecute and go after them. You can’t be a victim 40 years later, in my opinion,” Henry said.
http://www.cullmantimes.com/news/ed-...ffb09ccc5.html
11-10-2017 , 11:22 AM
Dear Henry, call me insane but just maybe, the reason they didn't come forward before is because of *******s like you who would call for their prosecution. *******.
11-10-2017 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Former DJ
If Doug Jones appears to be on his way to a victory, assuming Roy Moore has withdrawn from the race, that may put a lot of pressure on Ivey (and/or the Alabama GOP) to either call the election off - or postpone it. I don't know, legally, whether or not Governor Ivey can call off (or postpone) the December 12 election.
How didn't we all see THIS possible outcome?

She postpones the special election, thus getting them outside the window to change the ballot... They change the ballot, Luther Strange, well done, you're still a senator.

Trump supporters already have said in polls they support suspending elections... Republicans won't care... Democrats can't sue to keep a child molester on the ballot. I suppose they could creatively sue to keep the date but allow a ballot change?
11-10-2017 , 11:56 AM
The whole Trump line, which more or less boils down to "if the allegations are true, then he will do the right thing and step aside", is quite telling if you think about it. Of course, a Trumpkin never would.

Obviously Moore knows if the allegations are true or not even before the story broke. None of that prevented him from pursuing the career that he did. If the allegations are true, then we know that Moore doesn't really believe that someone who would do things like that is unfit for office, because he never would have run in the first place.

The problem, of course, is that now people know. So, for him to run with everyone knowing what he really is would be a stain on the Republican party. That's the real wrong here. And that's why when Trump et al say that Moore will do the right thing and step aside if the allegations are true, what they're admitting is that the real problem is not what he did, it's that he was caught.
11-10-2017 , 11:56 AM
11-10-2017 , 11:58 AM
whatabout Bill Clinton



I like how there's a Fox News ALERT for a 14 year old flashback.
11-10-2017 , 12:04 PM
MITT
11-10-2017 , 12:06 PM
Well mitt is basically a communist at this point. Good for him though. The most basic of human decency is now the highest bar we can expect from any republican.
11-10-2017 , 12:10 PM
Not helpful to aggrandize Mitt. It's really the lowest ****ing bar to cross. All Trumpism does is make heros out of the slightly less deplorable like new Resistance leader George W. Bush.

The GOP built all of this. Including Romney. Never forget.
11-10-2017 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Not helpful to aggrandize Mitt. It's really the lowest ****ing bar to cross. All Trumpism does is make heros out of the slightly less deplorable like new Resistance leader George W. Bush.

The GOP built all of this. Including Romney. Never forget.
I agree somewhat, but I also think we need someone to take a leadership role in trying to show their fellow Republicans what a moral compass looks like. Nobody can step into that role right now without having some dirt on them from the last 20 years of ever-worsening dog whistle politics.
11-10-2017 , 12:18 PM
Yeah, devout Mormons should probably sit this one out.
11-10-2017 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Dear Henry, call me insane but just maybe, the reason they didn't come forward before is because of *******s like you who would call for their prosecution. *******.
And to the probably numerous other women who are victims who were just as blindsided by this story as everyone else, this talk is the just the icing on the /r/TheDonald death threat cake.

Way to discourage people from coming forward. Way to abet a pedo.
11-10-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
I agree somewhat, but I also think we need someone to take a leadership role in trying to show their fellow Republicans what a moral compass looks like. Nobody can step into that role right now without having some dirt on them from the last 20 years of ever-worsening dog whistle politics.
Then disavow ALL of it. The last 20 years of ever-worsening dog whistle politics. Of American's insane foreign policy and torture. Fox News. AM Radio. Breitbart. Bannon. Steve King. GOP leadership. Mercer and the donor class funding garbage humans like Milo and giving them a microphone.

Don't start with ****ing pedophilia. What sort of moral compass is that?

Something something that's all too liberal, gotta start with pedophilia then slowly work up deplorables sense of shame from there. Good strategy, good luck with that.
11-10-2017 , 12:30 PM
Like Fox News has been peddling highly aggressive racial propaganda for a generation. America tortures people and a few of the lowest rung goons face penalties. Endemic fraud engulfs the financial sector causing a global recession and no one goes to jail. Mitt Romney shames poors on government assistance in private.

Oh, we really need a moral conscience to steer America away from pedophilia but we can't do that because busy body liberals will shame our best old white guy spokesmen with all that torture and fraud and racism they cheered on. Look forward to a pedarasty free future, not backward to any of that other stuff.
11-10-2017 , 12:34 PM
/rant here in a moment but these events prove nothing more than the adage about liberals loving nothing more in life than fighting monsters and never the conditions that create them. Today it's Roy Moore, molester would-be Senator and we need all the allies we can get, like Mitt Romney, non-molester would be chieftain of a party looking to gut the welfare state to fund more billionaire yachts, IT'S THE ONLY WAY.

How did an entire state, nay region, nay political party get to the point where Mitt Romney is a swamp creature scumbag to basically ~all of their voters and Roy Moore, child molester, dude who thinks Muslims can't serve in public office, and wants to jail gay people is a cult hero about to become a Senator? We're not sure! We need allies like ...the people who lorded over the entire descent of the party...to show us the way out. Says the liberal.
11-10-2017 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dance Me Outside
Yeah, devout Mormons should probably sit this one out.
this is a bad take
11-10-2017 , 12:40 PM
Perhaps with the combined forces of Respectable Conservatives Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, David Frum, Rick Wilson, and Jennifer Rubin the liberals will finally reinstall the sanity of...

::ruffles papers, checks script::

...10 years ago. Yes, the golden age of America, the last generation of GOP leadership, we need you now to stand guard. We've got the Profiles in Courage Award just waiting on the ground here to be picked up, become the Heros of the Republic and...

::ruffles papers, checks script::

...heroically stand against pedophilia.


Seriously, who the **** wrote this?
11-10-2017 , 12:42 PM
Trying to be the eternal optimist that I am, at the very least the Repubs will get some national backlash from this right? I mean they still solid fav to get senate seat, but some of those 60 millionish will have to be upset about this right? That the GOP is defending a pedophile? At least some of the women?

It's gotta be. 60 million people can't be a-ok with this. Please.
11-10-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Then disavow ALL of it. The last 20 years of ever-worsening dog whistle politics. Of American's insane foreign policy and torture. Fox News. AM Radio. Breitbart. Bannon. Steve King. GOP leadership. Mercer and the donor class funding garbage humans like Milo and giving them a microphone.

Don't start with ****ing pedophilia. What sort of moral compass is that?

Something something that's all too liberal, gotta start with pedophilia then slowly work up deplorables sense of shame from there. Good strategy, good luck with that.
You're stretching my take way farther than it was intended to go. First of all, Romney did at least speak out against Trump for his rhetoric. He's been a somewhat consistent critic of Trumpism.

I agree 100% that someone needs to step up and disavow all of it. The point I'm trying to make is, that person needs to be a Republican. We ARE pointing out the disgracefulness and unacceptability of all of it. But, we're just partisan enemies to these voters. Someone they have approved of before needs to do it... and yes, far more strongly than they have so far, but in a world where so far there are like four prominent Republican "outspoken," critics of Trump, we need more and we need them to be louder and more critical.

So my point is, I think we should say, "Good job, at least someone has the guts to speak up against X, Y, Z, now admit that your party led us here." instead of "**** that guy, he's been part of the problem."

EVERYONE that a GOP voter will view as having the authority and respect to point out how morally ****ed that party is has been part of the problem.

Now, if your preference is hard line moral absolutism, I respect the virtue of that... I just don't see how it helps us improve the circumstances. Long-term, Democrats are never winning in Alabama. We may steal this seat for 2 years, but it's going to flip right back.

We need someone to lead the GOP back to a place where at least the degree of deplorability is containable. I think it better serves us not to bitterly attack the only people doing anything at all to do that. I think Mitt Romney occupying a Senate seat in Utah would be a big win for the left, and for America in general.

So, in summation of a long-winding response, I'd just say I prefer a route of... "Good for you for speaking up, and thank you for having common decency. That said, what do you have to say about the party's rhetoric over the last 15 years leading to this? Were you complicit? If you don't think so, how do you defend it?"
11-10-2017 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
You're stretching my take way farther than it was intended to go.
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I agree 100% that someone needs to step up and disavow all of it. The point I'm trying to make is, that person needs to be a Republican.
Yeah OK.

Well, then, good for you for speaking up for Mitt Romney, and thank you for expecting just the most minimum amount of common decency.

That said, what do you have to say about the party's rhetoric over the last 15 years leading to this? Do you think the attitude that celebrated the absolute lowest common denominator standards makes you complicit in the holistic moral degeneracy? If you don't think so, how do you defend it?
11-10-2017 , 01:00 PM
If it’s true that Wookie is a biased liberal mod then he must step aside.
11-10-2017 , 01:03 PM
How old is Roy Moore’s wife?
11-10-2017 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fatkid
If it’s true that Wookie is a biased liberal mod then he must step aside.
Don't you think if he were biased he would have stepped aside by now?
11-10-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Money2Burn
How old is Roy Moore’s wife?
16

      
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