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01-24-2018 , 05:07 AM
Topic: pitbulls. Discuss.
01-24-2018 , 06:46 AM
ugh, no. I'm sure there are already a million internet discussions about how pitbulls are the greatest, kindest dogs vs born killers who will eat you and your children. Take it to a dog forum.
01-24-2018 , 07:19 AM
wat
01-24-2018 , 07:45 AM
Simplicitus I feel like you attacked that post much like a Pitbull going after a defenceless child.
01-24-2018 , 07:56 AM
downright rabid
01-24-2018 , 07:59 AM
ChrisV drinks raw water and thinks an evil wizard created pitbulls; his opinion wasn't the one I was most curious about.
01-24-2018 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
ugh, no. I'm sure there are already a million internet discussions about how pitbulls are the greatest, kindest dogs vs born killers who will eat you and your children. Take it to a dog forum.
OOT has a thread for dunking on pitbulltards.
01-24-2018 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
OOT has a thread for dunking on pitbulltards.
I stared at this post for 15 minutes.
01-24-2018 , 11:16 AM
I used to be extremely afraid of almost any dog when I was younger but my fear of pitbulls and rottweilers stayed with me the longest. It was mostly irrational and once I started interacting with the dogs they grew on me a lot. I have multiple friends with pitbulls and all of them are extremely sweet and caring (a couple are rescues who were probably fighting dogs before they were rescued).

Honestly with any dog you just need to know how to act around them and be able to notice signs of when they might be irritated or in a foul mood. Show them some love and they will show it back
01-24-2018 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Topic: pitbulls. Discuss.


01-24-2018 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
OOT has a thread for dunking on pitbulltards.
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Originally Posted by 6ix
I stared at this post for 15 minutes.
OK I slept on it. If you're in on the joke then I guess I have to be trolled.

But that thread now reads like if people made a flat-earth thread and trolled the **** out of anybody coming in to ask if they're serious.
01-24-2018 , 07:50 PM
Or the exact opposite.
01-24-2018 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Or the exact opposite.
heh


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Originally Posted by 5ive
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People have used an analogy comparing pitbulls to tigers, but they don't actually think pitbulls are a separate species or even subspecies, right?
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Originally Posted by Cranberry Tea
Who cares? IDGAF if it's a subspecies or a genus or whatever. I'm not gonna run a cladistic analysis on those things. Like, if wild boars were routinely mauling people in strip malls, we'd have a nationwide campaign to eradicate them. They'd be shot on sight; we wouldn't be debating whether they were a subspecies or a species or what have you. But somehow when lunatics want to let savage animals run buckwild in a shopping center, we treat this like it's somehow normal behavior.
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Originally Posted by 5ive
So, you're saying pitbulls might be a separate species. That's incredible.

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01-24-2018 , 08:25 PM
If you say "pitbull", 6 turns into a random text generator.
01-24-2018 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
I mean I am not sure of many things, but I am sure we see that exchange from a different pov.
Well ****, you've got my attention.

Just so I'm clear though, the guy saying he doesn't know or care if 'pit bull' is a separate species from 'dog' is not the flat-earther in this analogy?
01-24-2018 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
If you say "pitbull", 6 turns into a random text generator.
you're not in good company my dude
01-24-2018 , 08:36 PM
He said it is irrelevant to the matter. Clearly.
01-24-2018 , 09:06 PM
...aaaaaaand he's gone.
01-24-2018 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Well ****, you've got my attention.

Just so I'm clear though, the guy saying he doesn't know or care if 'pit bull' is a separate species from 'dog' is not the flat-earther in this analogy?
6ix >>>>> Cranberry Tea, but that's not what he was saying and you're being crazy. I like the passion though, about this and the diet stuff I didn't really follow.
01-25-2018 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
He said it is irrelevant to the matter. Clearly.
"Should we ban lions?"

"Yes."

"OK but do you know what a lion is?"

"No."


Honestly I thought you'd respond with, "Oh lol I didn't see those posts from 2016."
01-25-2018 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
6ix >>>>> Cranberry Tea, but that's not what he was saying and you're being crazy. I like the passion though, about this and the diet stuff I didn't really follow.
Well, I might be crazy. That's why I brought it up here with people whose opinions I find valuable and interesting.


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Originally Posted by simplicitus
ugh, no. I'm sure there are already a million internet discussions about how pitbulls are the greatest, kindest dogs vs born killers who will eat you and your children. Take it to a dog forum.
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Originally Posted by 6ix
wat

It's totally weird that you didn't read that as, "simplicitus et al, you are people whose opinions I find valuable and interesting, would you care to share them on this topic?"
01-25-2018 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
"Should we ban lions?"

"Yes."

"OK but do you know what a lion is?"

"No."


Honestly I thought you'd respond with, "Oh lol I didn't see those posts from 2016."
I get your point. Thing is I believe you get his also. I don't need to know the difference between a liger and an pure bred asiatic lion to not want to have lions in my neighborhood. If american mountain lion fans also lose out unfairly when get lions are banned I'm not that concerned, even if they are correct about my lack of understanding on the subject.

I can concede that you have a pov in that case that holds some value to the discussion but it isn't the check mate you believe it to be imo. Without naming the other argument or baiting it, I think it shows you are coming at it from a fanatical place and it clouds your perspective.

This is just my opinion on it and of course that is coming from someone who would agree a pit bull ban is best for everyone including the pit bulls and pit mixes, so biased for sure.
01-26-2018 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
I get your point. Thing is I believe you get his also. I don't need to know the difference between a liger and an pure bred asiatic lion to not want to have lions in my neighborhood. If american mountain lion fans also lose out unfairly when get lions are banned I'm not that concerned, even if they are correct about my lack of understanding on the subject.
One reason I find that thread overwhelmingly fascinating is that it might mean I'm literally, thoroughly insane, like the character Hal Incandenza at the beginning of Infinite Jest where he thinks he's speaking calmly and clearly but it's actually demonic gibberish.

Yeah, that bolded part seems reasonable and sensible. I know this because it's my argument, not his. I'm the one saying, uhhh if you want to ban lions you should probably ban tigers and pumas too. There wouldn't be an argument if people thought the bolded.

I don't know if there's some new breed (heh) of pro-pitbull people online doing the woke thing, saying pitbulls cure cancer and what have you but the old reasonable conversation would go like:

"We should ban pitbulls."

"OK, why?"

"They're strong and dangerous and were bred to be aggressive."

"Let's assume that's true. Should we ban the other dogs like that too?"

"Yes, all big, strong, scary dogs."

"OK, I see your point."

Rather than lions and tigers, the gun analogy trotted out backfires even better. There's a gun-control side and a pro-gun side but nobody is saying, "Let's ban S&W 9mms, they're the most popular handgun." Because that would be ****ing deranged.

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I can concede that you have a pov in that case that holds some value to the discussion but it isn't the check mate you believe it to be imo.
It's the entire discussion but it's not meant to be a checkmate, it's clowning on a subset of White Man Storytime on steroids starring a clown so intellectually bankrupt he can't be bothered to or is incapable of opening a ****ing wikipedia tab. Also, lol, 'checkmate' kinda implies I'm playing a game of chess rather than watching a drooler choke to death on a pawn as he tries to set up the pieces. Pitbulls are out the window at this point.


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Without naming the other argument or baiting it, I think it shows you are coming at it from a fanatical place and it clouds your perspective.
You mean the image I posted? I was going in a different direction but we can talk about that, this is a big boy forum. It's comically obvious that's an impetus for some non-zero amount of those dudes to insist on old-timey understandings of genetics but I didn't have gregorio in mind.

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This is just my opinion on it and of course that is coming from someone who would agree a pit bull ban is best for everyone including the pit bulls and pit mixes, so biased for sure.
Yeah, I posted this seven years ago:

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Originally Posted by Chump Change
Suzzer,

This thread led me to read more about dog legislation in non-US countries and it seems like the US is the only place with this pit-bull type dog fixation. Other countries just lump the pitbull in with all the other big, strong and potentially dangerous dogs.
I know this thread started with you talking about pitbulls specifically but I believe your stance changed to reflect all potentially dangerous dogs? (correct me if I'm wrong) If so, it can't be denied you have a point, in the sense that if a toy poodle decided to spaz out the damage would be far less than a pitbull/rottweiler/mastiff/presa/husky/etc doing the same. I was frustrated with the 'pro-pit' people earlier using comparisons with poodles and the like. It's not that they don't have a point, it's that the point is not the one being debated. Obviously a pitbull should be compared to other dogs of equal and greater size and strength.
I am the proud caretake of a half staffordshire/rhodesian ridgeback (definitely a pitbull-type-dog) but I would not be opposed to legislation banning all big strong dangerous dogs, especially if it cut down on the abuse and neglect of all these dogs out here with broken homes and no homes. My frustration is of a very fundamental scientific nature when seeing pitbulls singled out for pseudo-scientific reasons, and I'm sure most 'pro-pit' people would agree.
Then the thread ended until dude decided to turn it into a Breibart OOT Black Pitbull Crime Blog.
01-26-2018 , 10:33 AM
people who are shook by pit bulls are real special snowflakes
01-26-2018 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
I get your point. Thing is I believe you get his also. I don't need to know the difference between a liger and an pure bred asiatic lion to not want to have lions in my neighborhood. If american mountain lion fans also lose out unfairly when get lions are banned I'm not that concerned, even if they are correct about my lack of understanding on the subject.

I can concede that you have a pov in that case that holds some value to the discussion but it isn't the check mate you believe it to be imo. Without naming the other argument or baiting it, I think it shows you are coming at it from a fanatical place and it clouds your perspective.

This is just my opinion on it and of course that is coming from someone who would agree a pit bull ban is best for everyone including the pit bulls and pit mixes, so biased for sure.
Comparing mountain lions to regular lions in terms of danger to humans is absurd.

      
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