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08-19-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
And the overwhelming majority of white supremacists are, well, jerkoffs.
Not disputing that, now try comparing the number of white supremacist terror attacks with the number of Muslim terror attacks.
08-19-2017 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Not disputing that, now try comparing the number of white supremacist terror attacks with the number of Muslim terror attacks.
Try telling us what that has to do with the EU vetting system. Oh right, you probably want to ban all Muslims.
08-19-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Not disputing that, now try comparing the number of white supremacist terror attacks with the number of Muslim terror attacks.
Infinitely more Muslim attacks...until idiots start calling them all terror.
08-19-2017 , 07:57 PM
I guess I'm not a genius bigot like you.
08-19-2017 , 08:10 PM
In the US for the last 10 years, right wing murders = about 75%, Islamic =23%, and left wing myrders = 2%
08-19-2017 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Does any of you really think Eastern Europe has anywhere near the terrorism problem that westerner Europe does?
Any reflection on why not?
Right, so again you think "vetting" means banning all Muslims. Own your bigotry.
08-19-2017 , 08:48 PM
I'm from France and most of the muslims here are from North Africa. Maybe 8-12% of muslims are from ME and by experience (I am actually living with a syrian housemate) 99.99+% of them are very respectful to us and our country. Only medias are selling the 0.001% of those who cause troubles. I'm pretty sure it happens in your ****ty USA too with blacks people for example (have to say it, sorry).


I will just say that if one day some real **** happens in our countries and we'd all have to migrate some of you won't have the same speech.
08-19-2017 , 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Does any of you really think Eastern Europe has anywhere near the terrorism problem that westerner Europe does?
Any reflection on why not?
I'd far rather live in Western Europe with increased chances of terrorist attacks than ever live in Eastern Europe even if the chances were nil.
08-19-2017 , 09:33 PM
Are you saying that few crazy people with AKs and Trucks risk to destroy western europe culture?

lmao as an european I feel more worried about your president Trump than any terrorist attacks.
08-19-2017 , 09:38 PM
So is it the terrorism you're complaining about or "culture being destroyed".
08-19-2017 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ufm8
Are you saying that few crazy people with AKs and Trucks risk to destroy western europe culture?

lmao as an european I feel more worried about your president Trump than any terrorist attacks.
As an American, I agree and also feel just as worried about people who are filled with so much hate that they can sense it coming out of innocent peoples' minds.

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Originally Posted by skalf
And the reasons you do, has everything to do with western European history and culture.
If we let that be destroyed, what is the point of anything.
Oh, hello there.
08-19-2017 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
And the reasons you do, has everything to do with western European history and culture.
If we let that be destroyed, what is the point of anything.
There are very many historic places all over the world. Part of the culture I like in Western Europe is the inclusiveness, trying to stop it is a form of culture terrorism in my opinion. I say this as a blond haired male of English and Eastern European descent. Oh and culture evolves, evolution is progress, that which doesn't adapt goes extinct. There's a reason pyramids aren't still being built

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08-19-2017 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Yeah if we don't start tossing gays off rooftops, and ban women from leaving their homes without a male guardian, we will surely go extinct.
Can you make a case for why it's different than White Russians or Asian North Koreans when they kill and oppress their own citizens for whatever reasons they feel like?

You're not saying anything at all that's unique to Muslims aside from you deciding to single them out.

We have a word for that in America AND in Europe.
08-19-2017 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Yeah if we don't start tossing gays off rooftops, and ban women from leaving their homes without a male guardian, we will surely go extinct.
I see where your priorities lie. Cultures that restrict women's freedoms aren't nearly as successful as those that do. Immigration helps countries and cultures compete tremendously, restricting the rights of gays or any human stops people from wanting to come to your country. Middle Eastern culture is dying off for that reason, your position on immigration emulates theirs.

Skalf, I can say with certainty that your feelings on immigration (unless you're trolling) are objectively incorrect, please rethink your position and you will benefit greatly from it.
08-19-2017 , 10:40 PM
lol jfc
08-19-2017 , 10:58 PM
Shocked that you write at a 3rd grade level. Shocked.
08-19-2017 , 11:01 PM
Hey skalf,

You are just a scared snowflake aren't you? We literally have a 9/11 in the US every month with gun violence. But apparently, it's the dirty brown mooslims we need to be scared of. They smell funny too amirite?

If you are that terrified, just move out to the sticks and load up on guns and ****. That way, when the mooslims come for you, you are prepared. Heck, you'll even get to say "I told you so!" when the cities are destroyed by the dirty foreigners.
08-19-2017 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Actually I am, you are just buying into the standard leftist propaganda, that every group of of people is exactly like every other group of people.
I am not convinced.
Oh, and pleeeeaaaaseeeeee dont hit me with the word.
I believe my post was about you never saying WHY Muslims are different. Your reply whizzed right past it to complain about Muslims.

I believe you said you wanted to work in percentages. Your reply to statistics whizzed right past it to complain about Muslims.

The word you're so afraid of truly happens to fit. You just don't want it to be true. There's a word for that too.
08-19-2017 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
The problem with your thinking is, that the immigrants and their descendants from the backwards countries stick too their ideologies forever.
you assume, like we did in the 1980s, that everyone would want our way of way of life once they has been exposed too it.
As frustrating as it may be, it does not work out like that.
Cancerous bigots like you are the reason newcomers take long to fit it. You're the goddamn matchhead that lights the fuse of radicalism. Piss off.
08-19-2017 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Actually I am, you are just buying into the standard leftist propaganda, that every group of of people is exactly like every other group of people.
Essentially they are. But would not be so keen on talking about "groups", but about individuals. Give every individual an equal chance, and old bad thinking patterns will diminish.
08-19-2017 , 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
So we should just silently live with problems, because speaking up makes you racist?
I hope there are people braver than you around.
You are the one labeling over a billion brown people as terrorists.

Why haven't you labeled all white men as terrorists? After all, Timothy McVeigh blew up a building. Dylan Roof shot and killed 9 black people in a church.

Using your logic, everyone is a potential terrorist. Yet, you only focus on Muslims. Why is that?
08-19-2017 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by skalf
Are you seriously conflating skin color and ideology?
Do you understand why it is a very different thing, if a terrorist shares your ideology than your skin color .
You have no control over the skin color you are born with, you have 100% control over which ideology you sign up with.
Off course I didn't label every Muslim a terrorist.
So you admit it's a numbers game then?

OK, so you must then know you are far more likely to be killed by a right wing nut job than a Muslim.

So again, why are you singling Muslims out but not right wing terrrorists?
08-19-2017 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
Shocked that you write at a 3rd grade level. Shocked.
I had no idea what he was trying to say because the English was so bad and I didn't care to put forth the effort to understand what he was trying to say there. All I saw were grammatical mistakes that made my eyes bleed.
08-20-2017 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ufm8
I'm from France and most of the muslims here are from North Africa. Maybe 8-12% of muslims are from ME and by experience (I am actually living with a syrian housemate) 99.99+% of them are very respectful to us and our country. Only medias are selling the 0.001% of those who cause troubles. I'm pretty sure it happens in your ****ty USA too with blacks people for example (have to say it, sorry).

I will just say that if one day some real **** happens in our countries and we'd all have to migrate some of you won't have the same speech.
I think one mistake people make in analyzing the situation is only looking at attacks and number of deaths, and concluding from that that there's very little problem within the Muslim community because attacks are so infrequent and conducted by so few individuals.

But contrary to numbers you've just invented, the spread of radical and conservative Islam is more insidious than simply terrorist attacks. Look at, for instance, the percent of the young Muslim population within France that doesn't condemn the Bataclan attack that killed so many innocent people. It is 20,000x higher than the .001% you invented. Or, look at the percent of Muslims that think Sharia should be the law in France as polled every so often. The lack of integration and the bend toward radicalization within the second generation immigrants is a festering problem, and the reason that recruitment within these communities isn't as hard as one assumes.

And at a more basic level, conservative Islam, and the violent strain of radical Islam that is born out of it, is a religious dogma that is at odds with western democratic principles of tolerance, equality, and justice.
08-20-2017 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
In the US for the last 10 years, right wing murders = about 75%, Islamic =23%, and left wing myrders = 2%
I'm not sure these numbers are accurate, but let's just assume they are.

Muslims represent 1% of the US population. That they're 23% of terrorism would an absurdly higher proportion in relative terms.

When you zoom out from the US to across the world, that 23% transforms into 98% (last time I did the math). Radical Islamic violence kills >10k people a year (for many years running). Worldwide, everywhere you look, Islamic violence represents a hugely disproportionate share of violence relative to population size.

Adherents to Islam target and murder innocent people for the purpose of terrorism in very, very large percentages relative to the population size in every continent on Earth save for Antarctica (the only continent untouched by radical Islamic violence).

      
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