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At least 230 dead after a lorry packed with explosives exploded in the Somalia capital Mogadishu.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-41621660

Ugh that is terrible.

It took exactly 2 weeks for Las Vegas to go straight down the memory hole.

lol @ anybody who thought the worst mass shooting in world history would change anything.

and I almost had sklanksy on the hook too.

Didn’t that kid in Finland kill more at that retreat place?

Yeah the redditors are proud that both the world and US records are held by a white person now.

Also I think I had the free money call on no bump stock ban correct.

They canceled that pretty quick, would love to see the money trail for that couple weeks...

From a random website, not checked but I think it looks at events caused by a single person in one attack. Pretty solid showing by the US.

Rank Mass Shooting Location Victims
1 Norway, Oslo/Utoeya (2011) 77
2 USA, Las Vegas (2017) 59
3 USA, Orlando, Florida (2016) 49
4 Australia, Port Arthur (1996) 35
5 USA, Blacksburg, Virginia (2007) 32
6 USA, Newtown, Connecticut (2012) 27
7 USA, Killeen, Texas (1991) 23
8 USA, San Ysidro, California (1984) 21
9 Brazil (1997) 17
10 Scotland, Dunblane (1996) 17

Edit - actually, I can't believe this covers the whole world.

I was really disappointed to see Charles Whitman get booted from the top 10, then realized the European scoring method includes suicides, but doesn't include unborn fetuses, pretty bogus. Better put an asterisk on Brazil and Scotland imo.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ers-journalist

Certainly an act of terror targeting journalists and whistleblowers

RIP

I would argue that Breivik was two attacks. 8 were killed in the Oslo attack, 67 in the Utøya shooting and 2 died fleeing the shooting. However you count it, he still has a higher count than the Vegas shooter.

Haven't posted much lately but I think I was the biggest advocate of "watch as the American media and gun nuts contort themselves to imagine dozens of other solutions BESIDES gun control."

For instance:

The extravagance of hotel guests not wanting to be disturbed. Pre October 2nd thinking:

‘Do not disturb’ signs get another look after Las Vegas shooting

Looking forward to my 2am pat downs.

Also. Casino surveillance. Sure, there are cameras everywhere, but I mean, are they really EVERYWHERE?!:

In Las Vegas, the casino is always watching — and yet it missed Stephen Paddock

ALSO, too much liability for security guards, we could arm them were it not for those busy body lawyers chasing around toppled over elderly patrons:

As predicted, turning hotels into African and Middle Eastern freedom palaces with luggage searches and metal detectors is just common sense:

https://people.howstuffworks.com/hot...s-shooting.htm

This line is particularly glorious:

Oh man, what a failure.

Also. Employees need to remember see something, say something:

More security ldo:

http://www.travelandleisure.com/trav...ture-las-vegas

So here we have:

- second thoughts about "Do Not Disturb Signs"
- more cameras
- more security
- metal detectors and luggage searches
- training the housekeeping staff to be on the lookout for 'repeated body movements' and 'tunnel vision'
- limit liability for hotel security so they can arm themselves and bring the fire fight to the bad guys without any bad apple old ladies slowing them down
- remember to treat guests like potential threats they are

Not mentioned in literally any of these articles: gun control

Obviously to some extent, the American media has simply internalized what the rest of us already know. There's no defeating the people with raging boners for guns and literally ever other potential compromise is on the table besides guns. So perhaps they deserve credit for not navel gazing about gun control which is practically impossible and just moving onto "do you really need that Do Not Disturb sign?" solution building.

As always, the actual, real world of politics is simply a process of opposed interests engaging in the normal, sort of banal process of mediating disagreements and creating compromises and bargains to satisfy the invested parties. And America is seemingly deeply, deeply wedded to the notion that guns are uncompromisable and all other burdens and solutions to solve violent outbursts where people with guns mow down dozens of people regularly come from elsewhere.

We just need to give the hotel staff special forces training like in Under Siege.

Man how many of those articles were underwritten by the NRA? Wasn't there a story recently about oil companies paying for people to write stories like that against climate change?

Wait, is this guy suggesting that a US citizen taking his legally owned firearms to his private hotel room ought to be considered a "threat"?

2ND AMENDMENT ALERT

The truly effective thing about the NRA and gun propaganda is that they probably don't need to. Tons of passive acceptance ("guns are everywhere, part of the culture, will never change") and active propagation ("2nd Amendment is the sacred glue that holds together America and keeps us free from the bonds of government oppressors") of genuflecting to NRA interests that they likely aren't paying for or are baked into decades of messaging.

no it was me. actually, pretty sure everyone with a clue knew.

There was a whole crowd who thought the NRA was going to capitulate on bump stocks. Forgot the amazing human capacity to quickly forget tragedy that doesn't directly involve you.

Well it delayed the suppressor ban lift again. Maybe they will get it across the finish line before the next mass shooting.

Native advertising is similar to what you're suggesting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_advertising

Lol to keep from crying.

Georgia senator to giveaway bump stock to "one lucky winner" - CBS News
https://apple.news/A79uj-9kwQv2Ck3PelxmPbA

The Onion must be going out of business.

Terrorism or run-of-the-mill mass shooting? Time will tell.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/5-...say/ar-AAtGF4s