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01-31-2018 , 10:02 PM
02-01-2018 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by businessdude
One thing I find interesting as a non-political person is how the Dems get annoyed at Trump associating all immigrants with the worst cases among them (MS13) - but the Dems did the exact same thing on the other end of the spectrum by classifying ALL the DACAs as brilliant hard-working people filled with the entrepreneur spirit - they won't even accurately label them as illegal - instead concocting the term "dreamers" instead. Come on - that spin works in both directions.
To get DACA-status you have to fulfill a specific requirements for moral behavior, clean record and education / military service.

A lot of people have managed to do that, the thanks they're getting is being referred to as "illegals" by a lot of politicians wanting to appeal to the right-wing. The far right-wing is gobbling it up and releasing massive amounts of propaganda that equates them with people who actually commit hard crime. Then it gets picked up by certain news outlets which report the milder portions of said propaganda, this infects the mainstream and you rinse / repeat.

So basically you have a bunch of people who have their lives together, who have worked hard to get a resident status that allows them to stay legally, who has demonstrated good morals, good careers and who has achieved education or done honorable military service. I'm sure we can find a few rotten apples, but the proposed standard is still pretty high.

And the thanks these near 1 million people get get is to be used as political rhetoric and lumped in with murderers from MS-13 because that narrative makes democrats look bad.

It's one of the biggest betrayals in modern American politics.
02-01-2018 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Philly03
I think most of this country is finally starting to realize Trump is actually doing a great job.

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Yeah bra you nailed it
02-01-2018 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tame_deuces
To get DACA-status you have to fulfill a specific requirements for moral behavior, clean record and education / military service.

A lot of people have managed to do that, the thanks they're getting is being referred to as "illegals" by a lot of politicians wanting to appeal to the right-wing. The far right-wing is gobbling it up and releasing massive amounts of propaganda that equates them with people who actually commit hard crime. Then it gets picked up by certain news outlets which report the milder portions of said propaganda, this infects the mainstream and you rinse / repeat.

So basically you have a bunch of people who have their lives together, who have worked hard to get a resident status that allows them to stay legally, who has demonstrated good morals, good careers and who has achieved education or done honorable military service. I'm sure we can find a few rotten apples, but the proposed standard is still pretty high.

And the thanks these near 1 million people get get is to be used as political rhetoric and lumped in with murderers from MS-13 because that narrative makes democrats look bad.

It's one of the biggest betrayals in modern American politics.

Love when a non-politics reg spits some fire
02-01-2018 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul D


RFK died being comforted/cradled by a latino bus boy he was trying to shake hands with before Sirhan Sirhan shot him as someone pointed out itt earlier (kind of). You and some other progressives need to come to terms with the fact that not all rich people are out there trying to keep the little people down. Buffett, Joe Kennedey the third, and others aren't your enemy.
If God offered them a deal where he changes the world exactly as liberals desire, in return for them living on 500K a year, how many do you think would take it?
02-01-2018 , 07:47 AM
Exactly as liberals desire? No poverty, war, etc? 99.999%
02-01-2018 , 10:10 AM
Pretty hard to say no to God in that spot.,
02-01-2018 , 10:37 AM
And I get a raise to 500k after tax a year?
02-01-2018 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
If God offered them a deal where he changes the world exactly as liberals desire, in return for them living on 500K a year, how many do you think would take it?
They may check raise........
02-01-2018 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
“Leftist” is my #1 signal word that I’m talking a complete moron.
Statist tho
02-01-2018 , 07:42 PM
02-01-2018 , 07:45 PM
They missed 2010.
02-01-2018 , 08:02 PM
What makes it not an official SOTU? Is it because the guy speaking was black?
02-01-2018 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fatboy8
What makes it not an official SOTU? Is it because the guy speaking was black?
It’s the inauguration. Trump has an asterisk next to his last year
02-01-2018 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker
It’s the inauguration. Trump has an asterisk next to his last year
Yea the inauguration ones are technically just addresses to Congress while the end of year ones are official SOTU
02-01-2018 , 08:12 PM
I'll pay a media member that ends the "not real SOTU" thing like $50.
02-01-2018 , 08:20 PM
So Fox is still showing Trump is a liar since it's still behind 2010 and 2003. Is it supposed to be a win because maybe it wasn't quite as big a lie?
02-01-2018 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
So Fox is still showing Trump is a liar since it's still behind 2010 and 2003. Is it supposed to be a win because maybe it wasn't quite as big a lie?
Even from the get go I thought I saw most media outlets saying his was in 3rd place anyway so they are just confirming all the fake news lol
02-01-2018 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D


RFK died being comforted/cradled by a latino bus boy he was trying to shake hands with before Sirhan Sirhan shot him as someone pointed out itt earlier (kind of). You and some other progressives need to come to terms with the fact that not all rich people are out there trying to keep the little people down. Buffett, Joe Kennedey the third, and others aren't your enemy.

What planet do you live on?
02-01-2018 , 11:51 PM
RFK was particularly legit; guy fought for migrant workers because it was the right thing to do.
02-01-2018 , 11:52 PM
Yeah, from what I've seen RFK was pretty cool. Cooler than his brother.
02-02-2018 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by playinggameswithu
What planet do you live on?
The world where JFK and RFK did more for poor people (particularly blacks in the south) than you will ever do.

      
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