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08-07-2018 , 11:50 PM
I should add that becoming the governor of Kansas would legitimize Kobach in the eyes of millions of Americans. I think most Americans think that if you're at that level (governor, member of Congress) you must be relatively responsible and serious.

They don't pay enough attention to realize that it's really not the case.
08-08-2018 , 12:02 AM
High uncounted Johnson County turnout could be bad for Kobach - that's suburban KC, land of moderates. But who the **** knows anymore.
08-08-2018 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
High uncounted Johnson County turnout could be bad for Kobach - that's suburban KC, land of moderates. But who the **** knows anymore.
This is killing me, because I'm most invested in the KS-3 House D primary and they're counting at a glacial pace (21% reporting). I do agree that the uncounted votes being there is a bad sign for Kobach.
08-08-2018 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
High uncounted Johnson County turnout could be bad for Kobach - that's suburban KC, land of moderates. But who the **** knows anymore.
Yup, looks like (almost) everything outstanding should be bad for Kobach... So bad for Dems chances of winning the governorship in November, but I think better overall for democracy since Dems were always a longshot to win that governorship anyway.
08-08-2018 , 12:45 AM
Yeah, I’m old enough to remember when Trump winning the Republican primary was GREAT NEWS for Democrats.

Get Kobach out of govt now.
08-08-2018 , 01:36 AM
Johnson County is having a problem with its new voting machines, hence the delay in getting the vote. This is extremely distressing. Kris Kobach is currently the Secretary of State of Kansas, who is the chief elections officer in the state. From the Johnson County precincts that have reported, Kobach is losing by 15 points. If that margin or anything close to it holds for the entire county, Kobach would lose the statewide election. Now if they "fix" this problem with their machines, and Kobach suddenly wins Johnson County, that will be HIGHLY suspcious to say the least.
08-08-2018 , 06:21 AM
Looks like Brent Welder will lose in KS-3 by a point or two. Welder for those who don't know is a strong progressive Justice Democrat endorsed by Sanders and AOC. He raised hundreds of thousands of dollars with zero corporate PAC money and over 90% of his money coming from individual donations (including several of mine). I'm pretty angry about this defeat.

The projected winner of that primary, Sharice Williams, was a late entrant to the field once the establishment Dems saw that their very centrist candidate, Tom Niermann, was going to get stomped by Welder. Emily's List dumped over $400,000 into that race in the last month - I've seen more recent reports quoting the number at over $700,000. The ads they cut for her are a complete joke. They consist of clips of her shadowboxing while voiceover plays along the lines of "I'm a woman, lesbian, Native American, MMA fighter. That's cool, right? And as a totally tough lady, I'm not afraid to fight Donald Trump. Vote for me cuz girl power." Zero substance, zero policy. You can use Google to find that her actual policies are the standard, not-as-bad-as-Republicans brand of milquetoast nothing.

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- Sharice plans to:
Fight for a true tax cut for the middle class.
Incentivize health care benefits for small businesses and create a small business standard deduction to lower administrative costs.
Create a childcare tax credit to help working families across America.
Support efforts to increase broadband access, which is key to economic success in the modern economy.
Small businesses! Tax cuts! Tax credits! Incentivize!

Gfy.

I guess if you want to take anything away from this aimless ranting, take away that Emily's List is ****ing garbage. Spending around half to three quarters of a million dollars to defeat a pro-choice progressive in a primary - gmafb. In fact, they do similar things on a regular basis. If you have left leaning friends that might want to donate to Emily's List, especially now that Roe is in danger, tell them not to. Donate to Planned Parenthood, ACLU, anything else. Emily's List is an arm of the establishment. Wouldn't be surprised to see them supporting an HRC 2020 campaign.
08-08-2018 , 07:54 AM
KS-3 looks to be a relatively wealthy, white, Midwestern district. It's not super surprising that progressive policies don't play as well there as elsewhere. While disappointing, that doesn't really seem like a terrible result, all things considered.
08-08-2018 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Johnson County is having a problem with its new voting machines, hence the delay in getting the vote. This is extremely distressing. Kris Kobach is currently the Secretary of State of Kansas, who is the chief elections officer in the state. From the Johnson County precincts that have reported, Kobach is losing by 15 points. If that margin or anything close to it holds for the entire county, Kobach would lose the statewide election. Now if they "fix" this problem with their machines, and Kobach suddenly wins Johnson County, that will be HIGHLY suspcious to say the least.
Bump. Final tally has Kobach ahead by 0.1 according to NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...T.nav=top-news

Looking at the Johnson County results, I don't even see how this is possible.

https://jocoelection.org/sites/defau...ltsAug2018.pdf

Kobach was never more than a few hundred votes ahead with hardly any Johnson County in - and everything else like 98%+ reporting. He lost Johnson by 4400. So what gives? How could he possibly be ahead at the end?
08-08-2018 , 09:31 AM
Elections probably rigged

November will probably be completely hacked/rigged

One of the many reasons why "just wait for November" is a bad strategy and insufficient levels of activism/protests/resistance
08-08-2018 , 10:40 AM
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THE BIG IDEA: Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.), the No. 4 in House Republican leadership, only got 47 percent in Tuesday’s jungle primary for her Spokane-area seat. She’s leading her Democratic challenger, Lisa Brown, by 525 votes, or less than a half-percentage point.
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The GOP must defend 72 districts in November that are rated as less Republican than Ohio’s 12th Congressional District. Democrats need to net 23 House seats to seize the majority. Many of those 72 races don’t currently look competitive, but last night’s returns show there’s good reason to believe some may come onto the map in the final weeks. Especially districts that are heavily suburban.
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-- The same two candidates will face each other again in November, and the race will likely be very competitive. Connie Schultz, who is married to Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), notes that students will be back at colleges in November and therefore easier to turn out.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2813c7c4f96d
08-08-2018 , 11:27 AM
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-- The same two candidates will face each other again in November, and the race will likely be very competitive. Connie Schultz, who is married to Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), notes that students will be back at colleges in November and therefore easier to turn out.
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
I'm skeptical about how big this effect could be. Who are the students at, like Ohio State, who are residents of OH12 for voting purposes, were not around this summer, but will be back in college in November?

My interpretation of Ohio rules is that if you're an out-of-state student, you are unlikely to be allowed to register as an Ohio voter:

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May a college student register and vote from his or her school address in Ohio?

It depends. A college student may vote using his or her Ohio school residence address if the student does not intend to return to a different permanent address. When a college student registers to vote from his or her school address, the school residence is considered to be the place to which the student's habitation is fixed and to which, whenever the student is absent, the student intends to return, and is considered by the student to be his or her permanent residence at the time of voting. Any other previous residence for voting purposes is no longer valid. It is illegal for a person to register and vote from two different addresses.
https://www.sos.state.oh.us/election...esidency-reqs/

And I think it's a moot point anyway, because most college addresses, at least Ohio State's, will not be in OH12.
08-08-2018 , 03:32 PM
Ferguson & St. Louis County gave the boot to their county prosecutor (who had served since 1991) yesterday: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...michael-brown/

The winner, Wesley Bell, made a brief appearance on Pod Save The People last week. Seems like a good dude.
08-08-2018 , 04:48 PM
Who will oversee the recount between Kobach and Colyer? Kris Kobach! Recusal? Nah...

Who will set the price to Colyer for the recount if it's outside the automatic margin? You guessed it... (It looks like it'll be well within the margin, though.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kris-k...s-own-election
08-08-2018 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Looks like Brent Welder will lose in KS-3 by a point or two. Welder for those who don't know is a strong progressive Justice Democrat endorsed by Sanders and AOC. He raised hundreds of thousands of dollars with zero corporate PAC money and over 90% of his money coming from individual donations (including several of mine). I'm pretty angry about this defeat.

The projected winner of that primary, Sharice Williams, was a late entrant to the field once the establishment Dems saw that their very centrist candidate, Tom Niermann, was going to get stomped by Welder. Emily's List dumped over $400,000 into that race in the last month - I've seen more recent reports quoting the number at over $700,000. The ads they cut for her are a complete joke. They consist of clips of her shadowboxing while voiceover plays along the lines of "I'm a woman, lesbian, Native American, MMA fighter. That's cool, right? And as a totally tough lady, I'm not afraid to fight Donald Trump. Vote for me cuz girl power." Zero substance, zero policy. You can use Google to find that her actual policies are the standard, not-as-bad-as-Republicans brand of milquetoast nothing.



Small businesses! Tax cuts! Tax credits! Incentivize!

Gfy.

I guess if you want to take anything away from this aimless ranting, take away that Emily's List is ****ing garbage. Spending around half to three quarters of a million dollars to defeat a pro-choice progressive in a primary - gmafb. In fact, they do similar things on a regular basis. If you have left leaning friends that might want to donate to Emily's List, especially now that Roe is in danger, tell them not to. Donate to Planned Parenthood, ACLU, anything else. Emily's List is an arm of the establishment. Wouldn't be surprised to see them supporting an HRC 2020 campaign.

I saw a tweet chain a week or two ago where a bunch of supposed AOC supporters were giving her crap for not backing Sharice Williams. I didn't know anything about either candidate but it pissed me off to read bc they wanted her to support one candidate over another and the only reason they could cite was that one was a white male and the other was a female, lesbian, and Native American without any mention of her political advantages even though AOC replied that Welder's views/goals lined up better with her own. This is where progressives really fail and turn allies against them muddling up any progress that has been made thus far.
08-08-2018 , 06:40 PM
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1027323429681352704
08-08-2018 , 06:53 PM
Look on his face just screams, “Ethics? Are you ****ing kidding me?”
08-09-2018 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1027323429681352704
What a colossal piece of garbage. Someone Mason can be proud of. Of course, he will delete this post, just like my last post in the 'Trump economy good for poker' thread.
08-09-2018 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by corvette24
just like my last post in the 'Trump economy good for poker' thread.
That post was not deleted by Mason.
08-09-2018 , 02:44 PM
I wonder how many recounts this thing will have

08-09-2018 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Looks like Brent Welder will lose in KS-3 by a point or two. Welder for those who don't know is a strong progressive Justice Democrat endorsed by Sanders and AOC. He raised hundreds of thousands of dollars with zero corporate PAC money and over 90% of his money coming from individual donations (including several of mine). I'm pretty angry about this defeat.

The projected winner of that primary, Sharice Williams, was a late entrant to the field once the establishment Dems saw that their very centrist candidate, Tom Niermann, was going to get stomped by Welder. Emily's List dumped over $400,000 into that race in the last month - I've seen more recent reports quoting the number at over $700,000. The ads they cut for her are a complete joke. They consist of clips of her shadowboxing while voiceover plays along the lines of "I'm a woman, lesbian, Native American, MMA fighter. That's cool, right? And as a totally tough lady, I'm not afraid to fight Donald Trump. Vote for me cuz girl power." Zero substance, zero policy. You can use Google to find that her actual policies are the standard, not-as-bad-as-Republicans brand of milquetoast nothing.
the line on ks-03 had welder drifting between a 4-1 and 3-1 favorite, so with the ocasio-cortez upset last month i doubt they're putting out a line like that if they think there's even the possibility of a repeat. public policy had a poll this week where welder was leading sharice davids by 14 points, and imo campaigns for run-of-the-mill centrist dems running on identity politics don't generate the type of energy needed to win as 4-1 dogs.

plus it seems davids entered the race just 5 months ago, whereas i think welder has been a candidate for well over a year and according to wikipedia he had 30+ politician/union endorsements while davids was only endorsed by a few lone super-pacs (in the primary). so it just seems weird that after the shady kobach race and 12+ hour result delay that a policy-generic dem trailing by double-digits in the polls beats the populist who was polling +7 against the republican in the general.
08-09-2018 , 09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1027722561285697536
08-10-2018 , 12:34 PM
08-10-2018 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
Case in point. It doesn't matter if you put up a candidate like Tim Kaine or AOC. They will all be painted as commies. If you're all proud to call yourselves centrists, go ahead and be proud, but quit pretending that you're doing it because the opposition will devastate progressives by painting them as Maoist rebels.
08-11-2018 , 07:16 AM
The flipside of that argument is that Berniewouldawon only makes sense if you believe Republicans would not have gone on the Soviet honeymoon thing just as much as swiftboats or e-mails.
It‘s not about how hard you‘re hit, it‘s about how hard and smart you hit back.

      
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